I choose not to get hit with anything. Even a wet noodle. But, that is just me. I remember when we were bringing in The Smart Car and I was working with the Department of Transportation in Washington. I was told by a client that they would not want to be in one of those when they were hit by an 18 wheeler. I asked: "What would you want to be in when hit by an 18 wheeler?" Maybe the stick doesn't hurt, but why do we have to teach a dog to not fear pain or being attacked? I just want my dogs to have fun, come when called, and not bite me. I think my job in life is to protect and care for my dogs. Not that there is anything wrong with that. In a message dated 2/7/2014 12:19:42 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, proudk9@xxxxxxxxx writes: I would rather get hit with "the stick" 10x than snapped with a wet towel once if that says anything about the physical pain effects of it! ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION: http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================