[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Walk softly but..............

  • From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx
  • To: rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx, ELG440@xxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 15:48:32 -0500 (EST)

Yeah well...I have been to trails, been to training, know some good  
trainers and some VERY bad.  Known some very nice dogs sent back to Germany  
for 
their titles who were almost ruined. (No names).
 
Seems this sport seems to attract more than its fair share of "quein es mas 
 macho" types. And yes, there are nuts in any sport involved w/ animals, 
dogs,  horses, you name it, I've seen it and then some.  Just saying from my  
perspective (and I've given it a few shots), this particular venue attracts 
more  than it's fair share.
 
I'm just not convinced.
 
Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
Celebrating generations  of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/  

 
In a message dated 2/7/2014 2:47:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx writes:

Evan  ,
I don't know of any dog of TRULY solid nerves don't need "desensitizing"  to
the stick.
We have trained many dogs to the sleeve for both law  enforcement , personal
protection and
Schutzhund, none needed  "desensitizing"  .   The dogs working the sleeves
aren't  being "beaten'
and they aren't being hurt (at least by any trainer that is  worth a damn)
.  The stick is
a pressure test to discern COURAGE,  not to see how much pain a dog can
endure.  If you will
watch some  of the BSZS tapes you will see the dogs , many times never are
contacted at  all with the
stick.  It is rather waved over their heads, to see if  they will hit and
hold despite a "threat".
It is not a perfect test, but  good. It takes a lot of nerve to run down
that field and go for a "bad  guy"
that is acting aggressively and waving a stick at you,  lol.   Most do
pretty well, some come unglued.
But  desensitizing..no, not really, not the good ones.  They enjoy  the
challenge!  It is nothing more than
a big doggie game for  them.  As far as "putting my will " on a dog,   if
some big  goon comes at me, I sure as hell don't want my
dog to head for the hills  leaving me to fend for myself or my family..I
EXPECT them to step up to the  plate and
to defend me with their lives if the situation is dire  enough.
Protection, solid , strong nerves and good character,
all part  of the breed.  The sleeve training is just one way to hone that,
and  also to show it off.

Kathy



*"Victory...*Vires et  honestas"


On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 11:13 AM, <ELG440@xxxxxxx>  wrote:

> I do not do schutzhund work, not do I ever intend  to.
>
> I can't believe making a dog used to getting hit by a  stick is a good
> thing. I know, we train them to find bombs and get  blown up, but I don't
> like
> that either.  I don't like  having dolphins carry explosives either.
>
> To me, it is smart  not to want to get hit by anything, and I never felt 
the
>  need to  put my will on my dog, to get him to do something I want, and 
not
>  what  is reasonable for any animal.
>
>
>
>  Evan
>
>
>
>


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