In a message dated 7/3/2006 2:53:03 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, GrnRam415@xxxxxxx writes: . You may be one of the honest judges and that is a good thing. But there are too many that aren't. My list of honest judges is a short one. How strange. I agree with Fred, and that is not a normal thing for me. I have been in this sport for a bit. I have shown in at least 500 shows, and probably more. I have seen some stupid judging, and some ignorant judging. Most of the time I see hard working honest people, who do a good job. Some times I don't agree, but I know at least 100 people who judge German shepherds. When I go through the book of judges qualified, (or at least licensed) to judge our breed, I don't see one I consider dishonest. Even those I won't show under, do not match that allegation. It is an insult to think that judges actually would cheat, lie or worse. I know it is always easy to blame the judge. But, get a license, go into the center of that ring, know that your friends and enemies are watching you and every move you make, and will discuss it for months later. Then, when you have stood there, agreed to give your opinion, and do so in front of everyone, you can then decide why anyone would be dishonest. You have paid for your own parking at the airport, you have given up two days of your life, you have gotten to a motel and sat alone so no one has to talk to you. You have gotten up early, eaten breakfast alone, and ridden to the show with someone you never met, who can't talk to you about dogs. You stand alone in the sun, rain, or even snow, and make sure the handlers don't fool you. You see dogs that need to be bathed, won't stand, are frightened, and in bad condition. Your feet hurt, your back aches, you have a headache, you do get fed, but food chosen by others, and then fly home, and get in late, and head to work the next day, and can't discuss with anyone at work why you missed the weekend. Most of the time you do get some of your expenses paid, and only lose a little of your costs. For months you hear what you missed, and why you put up what you did, (and seldom is it the true reasons). If you do that, and decide to cheat inside the ring, you will find yourself with no assignments, few friends, and no self respect. Then you can talk about how dishonest we all are. I was not offended, disappointed perhaps. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================