In a message dated 6/1/2005 8:47:51 A.M. Central Standard Time, ELG440@xxxxxxx writes: Just what we gain from the WUSV is something I have not determined, other than international recognition, which may be a good thing. I've followed this discussion with interest. An additional interesting point is again --the History . The GSDCA was one the very first foreign club asked to be a member of the WUSV,by Germany. This was due to the high regard they felt for Julius& Ann Due and Ernie Loeb. We felt it was a great honor for the GSDCA to be asked,and for a number of years were the only American club that had a voice in the WUSV. You also remember that both Jack Ogren,and George (Bill )Collins,obtained their Foreign SV judging license which required them to go over there ,live for 3 months ,to learn and apprentice,and pass exams etc And this was very unusual.. So at the beginning,we had very close and good relationship with the WUSV . What has happened since is another history story <G> Helen Miller Fisher ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================