Anne, I do not separation of the white as a breed as you replied for me. I want a clearer explanation of the GSDCA Breed Standard with it being followed by SOME judges, breeders, etc. that have their own idea of it. I would like to see all pandas, blues and livers added to disqualification with the white color. As the breeders that really care try their best to breed GSDs with good color, health and temperament so why should they be punished? If the pet breeders, owners, fanciers want those color let them move on to another breed. Theresa -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 5/25/14, Anne Utter <rautt75@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: WHY will it pass .....? To: "Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm" <scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx>, "showgsd-l" <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Sunday, May 25, 2014, 1:47 PM i doubt separation like you want would end the debate or solve all the problems. it probably would open another can of worms. [DQ dog as another breed when no new breed has been brought in to make it a true new breed - still the same GSD genetically] A separate "new" breed would not mean all white coated GSDs would move to a separated "new" Berger Blanc Suisse breed but would continue as a DQ . There really doesn't need to be a debate. Just vote. Anne Sent from Anne's iPad > On May 25, 2014, at 9:49 AM, Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm <scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Well, maybe separation of the White Shepherd-breed would > be best as it would end this debate once and for all. If the > change is not approved which I feel it is best for the breed > not to be this would be another solution. As Germany now with their > new Warden has made changes so to have better healthier > dogs it is time America does the same. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION: http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================