In a message dated 9/27/10 11:46:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time, grnram415@xxxxxxx writes: The fault that bothers me the most is temperament. I have to agree with Laura, but mostly I hate it when they bite and draw blood. Now, I know we use these dogs for Schutzhund, but I hate to leave the ring with teeth marks on my arm. Maybe I am too fussy, but there is a time and a place for everything. Any judge who has judged for more than a couple of years, knows the temperament of what they are looking at. We don't need a temperament test, (or as I refer to it, "the long stand and stay"). A simple look at the dog and in his eyes will tell you all that you need to know. But, it is important that you not make a mistake. Maybe the dog is sound, but just nuts, or maybe had a bad day driving to the show, and is angry. So, we all do the loose lead temperament test, then judge the dog on our knowledge and ignore the test. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Evan Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================