I wasn't clear enough here..... the things that will make a dog ineligible for Novice are: one or more points ONE win in Bred-By, Am-Bred, or Open Three wins in Novice and of course, John was right...the eligibility is determined by the closing date, not the date of the show. Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: "pmick12" <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx> >A dog may not compete (and shouldn't be entered) in Novice if it has not >won > three classes in Novice, Am-Bred, Bred-by, or Open...other than puppy > class. > The rule book says nothing about 12-18 or the new Amateur Owner class, > which > I think is strange....AKC isn't keeping up to date with itself, obviously. > > You can win 30 puppy classes and still be eligible for Novice provided > (a) > you have no points (not one) or (b) you haven't won one of the classes > mentioned above...and that applies only to wins prior to the closing of > entries. If you are eligible for Novice when entries close, it's OK..you > can win AFTER entries close, even get a major, and they can't keep you out > of Novice. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================