[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: WHEN do we consider movement....NOT!
- From: "Nancy Harper" <nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx>, <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <denwil2007@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:34:56 -0400
Carolyn, Carolyn et all,
Question, these same dogs that are flipping the foot, are they the same ones
with the rear department problem?
Nancy
----- Original Message -----
From: Carolyn Martello
To: nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx ;
showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; denwil2007@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:18 PM
Subject: WHEN do we consider movement....NOT!
Another common fault we are getting to see MORE and MORE is the front pastern
is flipped UP
in the follow through instead of BACK low to the ground in the exact same
angle as the rear in it's
follow through. Something is seriously out of sync with these dogs as that
is a VERY inefficient
follow through......same as the 'kick up' in the rear. There is no
opening and full extension in the
follow through of the pastern either.......the action is UPWARD and very
incorrect!!!
It amazes me that no one ever seems to notice this one.
I don't know if it is from bad flat feet that cannot bear the weight of the
dog and has to 'snap' the
front foot up after the weight passes over it....or if the timing is off and
it has to compensate with
the split second timing of the rear and front being out of sync by flipping
UP instead of back. in
sync with the rear.
I have a drawing I made on my FAQ's page on our site that shows the correct
balance of a
dog in full stride..... but not in the period of suspension......visualize
that with the pastern bent
UP in the follow through when seeing the line of balance....as in some of the
photos on this site...
.
Don't even get me started on the flopping tails....... like rags flopping in
the wind..........<G>
( PS....I added Carolyn McKenna's last name to her signature ......as mine is
Carolyn M...also...<G>
Carolyn Martello marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.Marhaven.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Nancy Harper To: carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ;
denwil2007@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:27 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re:
movement....NOT!
Carolyn,
This is a good explanation of correct movement put simply for easy
understanding. , I keep seeing pictures produced in the review of dogs
moving with their elbow "tucked" up next to the body instead of the front
leg being straight out there with the foot low to the ground.
Nancy-----
Original Message ----- From: "carolyn mckenna" <carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx>
Denise, The hock joint connects the metatarsus to the lower
thigh. Standing, the metatarsus is perpendicular to the ground and
at a 90% angle to the lower thigh. A locked hock is one that keeps
this position when moving; it is locked in this position. With
proper drive and at full extension the bones of the leg should form
a straight line from the pad to the top of the pelvis with no bend
in the hock joint. The same is true of the front: from pad to the
top of the shoulder blade should form a straight line with no bend
at the elbow. A good place to see many moving dogs and compare is
www.saranugent.com. Click on candids and movement. There are some
locked hocks there and the dogs are not identified so no one is
offended. Carolyn McKenna
---> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Carolyn Martello <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> That seems to be the case at many shows It appears to > me that in the>
fascination for seeking
the extra inch of front> extension..... our Breed is seriously> lacking in
it's major force of movement......
.the> powerful rear thrust from a correct> and powerful driving
rear......and a good back to transmit
> that power through to > the front
The best solution for many of the dogs is to> rotate the stifle outward in>
the rear follow through
to keep from dragging it's> toes.....
> A dog like that cannot stop and twist and turn to herd> sheep...
and we are losing the tails as rudders for balance.......they are more like
a dead flopping rag.
> No wonder our handlers are holding the dogs up and holding> them together
to
> navigate a few turns around the ring. No wonder> we're dependent upon
our> handlers to
have a powerful left arm......we don't have> that power in our dogs.<G>
> Kill me now................<G>......I'm useless> on the food chain
anyway.= <G>
>
> Carolynmarhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.Marhaven.com
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