hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx EarthLink Revolves Around You. In my opinion, there are several significant things that identify collectors( collectors can be different than puppy mill breeders..or they can be one in the same). Typically collectors refuse to acknowledge that they have too many dogs. They feel strongly that NO ONE could provide a good enough or loving home(even if theirs is not) for any of their dogs but them. Usually they can identify filthy conditions are under nourished dogs that some one else may have..but can't see that they keep the dogs the same way. As with most abusers..they cannot usually come to grips with the fact that they themselves are abusers and often have excuses and reasons for the condition their own dogs are in. Collectors can be well educated, articulate..some you would never suspect. If you could read Ms. Clark's letter..you would see that she fits the profile of both the collector and the puppy mill breeder. In her eyes..she believes she truly loves her dogs..she x-rays..she says she "tests" if she thinks there is a problem..she states that "playing with them means more to her than cleaning up after them",..typical "collector/abuser" rhetoric.. BUT in this case she is also a puppy mill. The true "puppy mill breeder" also keeps a large number of dogs..but do so for breeding as more dogs means more puppies..which means more money. Any dog would be for sale at a price to anyone. they don't keep large numbers because they are "concerned" that know one can care for them like they do. To them dogs are like livestock. These descriptions don't fit EVERYONE, but many collectors do exhibit some of these characteristics.Christine ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================