Just some history. WDA goes back a very long time. It started as a committee of the GSDCA,with a separate Board. Bill Collins was President of WDA, Nancy Tahash was Secy,and Bill Pfeiffer was treasurer. Eric Renner and his father in Law,Dr. Joe G. were on their Board also This was long before anyone who is involved now . The GSDCA was essentially in competition with SchUSA to represent the GSD in this country as well as Germany.,even though the GSDCA was the first foreign country to be invited to join ,what was at that time, the newly formed WUSV--courtesy of Julius and Ann Due,and Ernie Loeb WDA was a full GSDCA committee ,up to,and all through my Presidency !985-1989,Then Carmen became President,and tossed them out on their own,with complete separate identity--made them a liaison. But as a committee,they had officers,etc. Their Board attended our Board meetings,and our Board attended their Board meeting. But no intermingling of officers. We were fighting SchUSA,and I was trying to have the AKC allow us to have that part of the Sport under the umbrella of the GSDCA. We almost made it, They had their first show at the Phoenix National, in conjunction with us,but held it about 6 blocks away from our site. Their Judge sat,at head table and spoke.But separately they could hardly survive,so it's been an uphill struggle this long,and our members are doing the helping anyway. and now in the last couple yrs, Carmen ,as an AKC Board member has been working to have the German Shepherd,Doberman,,Rotties,Giant Schnauzers be able to do Scutzhund work under their respective Parent Clubs umbrellas.. Times change.Then that could be just like Herding , Agility--something for everybody Helen Miller Fisher ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================