In a message dated 8/13/2005 3:57:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, sally@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: I underdstand what you wrote about the wda but I keep getting told by board members that the wda is a PC committe not a separate club. Those all the confusion and distrust because no will answer the other questions As I understand it, they are a separate organization. They have a separate board, and are independent. The WDA used to be a committee, but since they now have their own president, board and directors, I would think they are clearly a separate organization. The last I heard the AKC did not allow any of their members clubs to include bite work. With that in mind, the WDA can't be a committee of the GSDCA. I could be wrong about that, as I have not been active in the WDA. But, the last time I was involved with the GSDCA board, that was the position of our club. I do know when they compete in the World Trials the jackets say, GSDCA-WDA. I like that. Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================