None of us want it to happen to anyone. The point I was trying! to make is that all this fuss about them not getting a dog from "us" is probably a good thing, taking into consideration the attendant publicity, and the possibility of problems. No one wants anything but good things to happen to our breed, and our breeders, no matter the so-called nationality of the dogs. Being realistic, sometimes being in the spotlight is not so good. That was my total and only point. Not exactly something to build upon! Syd In a message dated 12/17/2008 1:02:13 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx writes: I would prefer it not happen to ANYONE, call me crazy. But we are talking about the breed we all love. I wouldn't wish it on her, or any breeder, whether breeder of German, American, small or large. I really don't even know why we are taking this all so personally about the Biden dog. If they had bought another breed , I guarantee we'd all be whining..."gee, why didn't they get a GSD?" I have read cattiness, and the "us" and "them" mentality works against us ALL AS A BREED, and as a dog fancy. I wish them great happiness and success with their new puppy. If we are soooo upset they didn't come to "us" , then the club needs to be more visible and do more to promote itself to the public. We have not done a stellar job of it for our Nationals so far...the surrounding communities hardly know we are even in their town for a week. So we have no one to blame but ourselves. JMO Kathy _http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com_ (http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com/) Updated: Dec 10, 2008 ~ HOME OF:: CH. Elvaston's Nations Cup TC, 26 BOBs CH. Victory's Leviathan CH. Garter's E-Male of Fran-Jo Anne Isle WE SUPPORT DRUG AND DYE TESTING On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:16 PM, <_Elsyd1@xxxxxxxx (mailto:Elsyd1@xxxxxxx) > wrote: These are issues that can backfire both ways. As "reputable" breeders, we all have bred puppies that eventually were stricken with just about any illness that one can imagine. We are not immune! Better it should happen to her, than to us. Syd **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================