I do beleive that AKC changed its ruling a few years ago....as follows: If a Veteran Dog or Bitch goes BOB...that is as far as they can go, they cannot compete in Group Judy Judsohn German Shepherds judsohngsd.@xxxxxxx Visit our website judsohngsd.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <InquestGSD@xxxxxxx> To: <bnbgsds@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 7:19 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Veterans going Select In a message dated 10/29/2006 4:31:40 P.M. Central Standard Time, bnbgsds@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: Meaning no disrespect to Alvin or Rollins(both have gone Sel from Veterans). When you think about it since unaltered(either sex)can compete in Veterans is it fair for them to compete against unaltered animals for the Sel title? ....Bob Neiman Bob, did you mean altered vs unaltered? in that case I don't see why not.....the Sel is a non regular class anyway. BUT....could a neutered/spayed veteran go BOB? This has turned into very interesting trivia. Ileana ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================