I guess I'm confused. I understand that anyone can bring a lawsuit against the club for any reason, but what I don't get is why so many seem to think that there is no basis for keeping this man out of the club. He is a commercial puppy breeder that ships thousands upon thousands of puppies bought from puppy mills (I believe he owns his own puppy mills as well) to pet stores across the country (FACT). Whether some think this is his business and his right as an American and in fact a good example of American initiative hard at work.....most members I would assume think he is a slimball that has done nothing for the breed of dog...any breed of dog for that matter so based on that, it should be enough to deny him membership to the club. If he chooses to sue, well I guess we cross that bridge when we come to it, but to crumble before him without any type of resistance doesn't say much for the club and what it claims to represent. Also keep in mind that his reasons for joining the club could utlimately mean that if he were to win a lawsuit, he may benefit very little from becoming a member. Not everyone in this club is driven by the almighty dollar. Cindy Rbuffdogs@xxxxxxx wrote: In a message dated 10/5/2006 2:09:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Karen4paws@xxxxxxx writes: have a question. Why is it that everyone in the group was appalled and angry at the AKC just a few weeks ago for signing an agreement with Petland and much serious debate took place on what we can do to get them to rescind this agreement yet, there are people who think Hunte - who provides those puppies sold at Petland should be allowed membership with the GSDCA? I am against both. JMHO Totally agree with you Karen. The parent club needs to take a stand. But they are afraid of a lawsuit. I bet they will do nothing...see no evil, hear no evil....you know? Kathy Tank _Victory German Shepherds_ (http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com/index.htm) ~ WEBSITE UPDATED: OCT 1, 2006 Home of CH. ELVASTON'S NATIONS CUP, TC, OFA H/E DNA'D "NITRO" 25 BISS/ BESTS OF BREED TO DATE 2006 PACIFIC COAST VICTOR ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================