I cannot begin to add to Susan's critique...she had her hands on him a couple of times for a few moments & from her post, you'd think she'd smuggled in a protractor & measuring tape! ;-) She understands anatomy & structure far better than I... I only know what I like & what I don't ;-) Yasko is owned by someone in FL (I hear) and managed (?) by Bill Fleischer & is currently hanging out at a GSD working lines kennel north of Dallas. His TX guardian was difficult to reach. The rumor mill said that she did not return phone calls... through very limited experience, this would seem true. Susan called and left messages multiple times for three days with no result. Finally caught her at her job and was able to make an appointment to view the dog. On the phone, Yasko's guardian wasn't too encouraging about seeing him. She told Susan (paraphrasing) that he was no big deal and that "he was just a dog... he sheds & farts". When we arrived, we were told that they'd put Yasko out in the side yard. It was a secure yard with tall cedar fencing with a section of iron bars that allowed you to look inside. I was afraid we weren't going to be allowed IN. We were ;-) Yasko was let into the yard, and then the guardian came over & unlocked the iron gate. Not a woof as we peered thru the gate or as we entered. He wagged his tail as the guardian unlocked the gate (thinking of a potential car ride perhaps) and sniffed the air to see if we had brought a female GSD along. He glanced briefly at us as and that was it. He wasn't handled, gaited or stacked for us, just allowed to be a (shedding & farting) dog. If there was a video dictionary, this dog would've been describing ALOOF. He was not a Golden. He didn't drool all over us like we had been separated for weeks. He didn't display hesitancy that some people think is aloof. He didn't 'eye' us, he didn't try to sneak a sniff as he trotted by, he didn't keep looking at his guardian for advice and he knew VERY well we were there. By just saying his name or snapping your fingers, he was at your side. Again, not in a love-starved Golden way. I sat on the step of the deck, and he would come up and look into my eyes, as if he was trying to determine my temperament. I scratched his chest & found a good spot, which he enjoyed, but that was not enough to win him over. He has a remarkable presense. Occasionally judge's critiques in the Review will say 'the dog asked for it'. Whatever Yasko has must be what the judges were trying to put into words. You could not take your eyes off him. It was hard to keep your hands off him ;-) He was 'just a dog' the way DaVinci just drew pictures. His photos do not do him justice, the photos do not capture the presense. They might capture the RED of his black & red coat. ;-) His guardian said he was more red when he was in coat. She said he was naked right now. Yasko had enough coat naked to make Jack look like he needed Rogaine for dogs. ;-) (Of course this comparison helps if you know Jack.... ) I've not seen an awful lot of well-known dogs. I've touched even fewer. So my 2 cents is probably worth exactly that ;-) I can think of only one animal I've ever seen that haunted my memory the way this one does, and that started because of his photo. Adjectives don't seem to work when trying to describe this dog. To say he was gorgeous doesn't fit, because that makes me think sorta feminine... and he wasn't. Handsome doesn't fit because that makes me think less than gorgeous... and he wasn't. The only description I can agree on is RED. ;-) I don't know diddly about German line dogs. When I first learned Susan was going to try to see him, I didn't know who he was. Still don't... yeah, he was Germany's Sieger twice... but what years? Who's he out of?? I went with a little more enthusiasm than if Susan had told me we were going to see a number one White Shepherd. (Apologies to white Shepherd people.) The same breed, yet different enough to not care. Yasko will be 7 this year and does NOT look, move or act like a has-been. I don't understand the German way of discarding their "old" dogs. In that, they must be nuts. In choosing him #1 twice, they were not... Diane You can see his photo on http://www.fleischerheim.com/Yasko.htm if you click on his progeny page... you can see an informal portrait style photo of him. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 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