I wanted to thank all of you who responded concerning when to ultrasound a potentially pregnant bitch. I had an ultrasound done last Tuesday (day 24 from the last breeding) and there were no puppies. I was devastated. The vet told me to come back in another week and have another one done. I was so certain she was pregnant and then this news. It was a very nerve wracking week for me to wait. This morning we took another ultrasound today (day 30 from the last breeding) and we are definitely pregnant. This was one of my Portuguese Water Dogs I had shipped a long way to breed. The vet indicated larger breeds, such as GSD's, will show the sacs earlier than the medium or smaller breeds. He made mention of a Scottie breeder where they couldn't find the bitch's puppies until day 45 from the last breeding and yet he has done an ultrasound on a Golden Retriever at day 16 and found puppies. We are very happy here at Sandstone. Petro Haring Sandstone Portuguese Water Dogs and German Shepherds http://www.sandstonegsd.ca email: haringp@xxxxxxxxx ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================