mary you ROCK!!!! it was her first litter... and yes the babies are 4 weeks.. they are safe they have been getting goat milk and good kibble softened she was starting to wean.. wonder if that's why it happened.. this girl is a very sweet young lady... that has learned that things are not easy in breeding... she has a super female amazing character and good health... but she has had a terrible time.. her puppies were whelped and 2 days later mom had infection inside from i guess placentas OR because there was one puppy in between that didn't make it :( it wasn't discolored or anything, she tried for quite some time to revive it anyway... the other 6 are super!! the litter came early.. it was a weekend didn't have oxy its a small vet office and they ran out and didn't even realize they didn't have any.. so she had to hit Tufts then.. they put her on Clavamox and she had been nursing every since.. we had AMAZING SUPPORT from the list...that night.. AMAZING and was forever grateful and she learned alot, as did i... i have NEVER had the issues this poor girl is having so i came right to the "list" :) update.. the female is not necroted THANK GOD.. its just purple now for 24 hrs... the milk was never discolored either... she is taking her home... keeping her fluids and rx til her office opens tomorrow and her vet is confident she can deal with this if she needs surgery... she is no temp for 36 hours at least now too :) she isnt eating.. but she grabbed some canned food from work.. babies are AMAZING.. i went to see them yesterday.. they turned 4 weeks old OH MY GOD they are demons hahahah they were first time outside i taught her some stuff to do.. and we evaluated baby temperament and they are devils... greeted us strangers like nothing and FAT FAT huge heads... hahaha we have testicles on two boys already LOL i never had them that early i never noticed.. but i wanted to inspect each puppy see how they were... sally is just being sally its ok :) she is wrong.. of course it developed from the time she left for work... there was nothing of concern there..it was NOT THERE nor has the female been neglected omg REALLY? we very much appreciate the support and non judgement from those not judging... i would come to list all over again... its fine :) thanks so much! and i would post pics but i dont think i can right? if she has a page i will send it to you guys!!! DM In a message dated 7/14/2012 9:59:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, destinogs1@xxxxxxx writes: How this happened is irrelevant. The owner of the female has a major problem on her hands and a litter of puppies. I hope that the puppies are old enough to be eating on their own. Tufts is an excellant Vet. college, but I doubt that they see a lot of bitches with mastitis. Most veterinary clinics know how to handle this, at least in my area they do. The danger now is the high temperature and the dark spot on the breast. Sounds like the tissue is necrotic. This could mean surgery on the breast. I hope that the information that we have provided has helped the dog and the owner. I think the owner of the female is a novice and didn't know to keep an eye on the breasts. We all were novices at one time and we don't need to be too critical of this person. Mary -----Original Message----- From: Sally <sallyhayden5@xxxxxxxxx> To: WyMarGSD2 <WyMarGSD2@xxxxxxx> Cc: cnnpmm2 <cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sat, Jul 14, 2012 8:54 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: UPDATE to Mastitis The lady who has the litter is a vet tec and pre vet student and let her bitch get this bad? Wow Sally On Jul 14, 2012, at 7:23 PM, _WyMarGSD2@xxxxxxxx (mailto:WyMarGSD2@xxxxxxx) wrote: > Well.. to be honest..they do NOT have a lot of this issue in their > clinic... the Dr on call was an ASSHOLE to be blunt, last night..and this young > lady who has the litter IS a Vet Tech and pre vet at Beckers College... but > her work was closed :( todays vet isnt too bad... but she had the > female there 4 weeks ago and they didn't know what the hell they were doing > THEN... trying not to disrespect Tufts but i found MORE accurate info from > THE LIST breeders than this facility... i trust my Repro Vet more than > i trust Tufts but my vet wasn't open :( > > i do SINCERELY appreciate your post and i will pass along your well wishes > for the female thanks so much :) > > > > In a message dated 7/14/2012 6:10:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > _cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) writes: > DM writes: "ANYONE have experience as to what RX and what treatment to > use... i mean REALLY how often does Tufts see this versus a repro vet?" > > > > DM, it is *never* a good idea to ask a "list" how to treat a seriously ill > dog. Tufts is one of the top Veterinary Colleges in the country. > Traditionally, Veterinary Colleges see more serious illness than any Veterinarian > in private practice will ever see. Tell your friend to trust the folks at > Tufts. > > I hope the bitch's condition improves soon. > > > > PaulETTE McGuirt, GSDCA Member > Wellborn-Allemande German Shepherds > Qui Me Amat, Amat et Canem Meam > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <_wymargsd2@xxxxxxxx (mailto:wymargsd2@xxxxxxx) > > To: <_showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) > > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 5:56 PM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] UPDATE to Mastitis > > > So they rushed the female to Tufts, her temp got over 105.5 they have > been giving her IV antibiotics and IV fluids... and hydro morphine... she > was lethargic yesterday today... she is alert oriented and not eating, but > walking around > > they state today they think it spread to a second one... and the one that > was initially infected has a purple spot. they are concerned and suggest > surgery within possibly the next 72 hrs... if it doesnt clear up > > > ANYONE have experience as to what RX and what treatment to use... i mean > REALLY how often does Tufts see this versus a repro vet? > > > Thanks for any info you can offer > > > DM > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2011. 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