Exactly!! I feel the same way - if my dog has shown himself or herself to the best of it's ability and there are better dogs there, I will NOT complain about it if the judge finds the best dogs there - after all, that's how it's SUPPOSED to work. But if I can't follow what the judge does, or if the judge obviously does not follow the standard or puts up obvious faults, THEN I have something to complain about, and I do this by not giving that judge my entries again. Gail Bauman - Liebchen Kennels 10 month old male show prospect available http://www.geocities.com/liebchenkennels/puppies-available.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx To: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 6:23 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: UPCOMING JUDGE In a message dated 8/17/2005 6:20:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, hcj2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Remember that at a dog show a judge can only please WD, WB, BOB, and BOS.... the rest could find somthing to complain about. I'm pleased when a judge does a consistent job, is pleasant, gentle with puppies. I recommended a judge for an assignment who is a Saluki breeder for a GSD assignment not too long ago who gave us a (maj.) Reserve (we deserved it; looking at the winners class, my eyes stopped at the Bred By Bitch who was just lovely and though "uh-oh".) There is another judge who I jokingly say I have (maj.) Reserves from in both Canada and the US (different dogs), who I would show to any time. Both times I agreed with her decision. On the other end of the spectrum, I've won under judges I just couldn't follow....naturally, the only thing to do there is say "thank you" <G>. Some of us can go home without purple, still know the judging was good and in fact recommend the judge for additional assignments:)))) People are getting smarter though; If they see shenanigans, they aren't taking multiple chances with their dollars. My pet peeve is judges who look like they have a tooth ache. Some just look bored or like they wish they were anywhere else. OK, I know the accommodations the night before might not have been the Four Seasons, and I know the floors inside are hard, or maybe it's hot outdoors, but for goodness sales, if you don't want to be there, don't take the assignment. Foreign judges in general are a happier lot! I remember fondly and Australian judge I showed too. I watched his breeds before GSDs (amazing to me how few folks do that!), and he was all but skipping w/ happiness. He made a big deal selecting his class winners, WD/WB/BOW/BOB. His grin was from ear to ear and it never let up all day:) Super w/ puppies and youngsters. Even if I wasn't going for the points w/ something immature, I'd drive a long way to show to him:) Kathy three generations of Dual Titled Champions live here! visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================