[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: UPCOMING JUDGE

  • From: caggra@xxxxxxx
  • To: lfossland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 15:46:25 -0400

I agree, but wasn't Tom C. there and that is why he made the statement on the 
list?    
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Liane Fossland <lfossland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: caggra@xxxxxxx <caggra@xxxxxxx>; ruthgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx; 
Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: admin@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 10:49:58 -0700
Subject: RE: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: UPCOMING JUDGE


I disagree.
Unless you were there and saw it with your own eyes you should not make
statements like that. If a judge does not do a good job in the ring, then
you don't have to show under him/her again and eventually this judge will
not be used again for lack of entries. Process of elimination. 
Lee


> [Original Message]
> From: <caggra@xxxxxxx>
> To: <ruthgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: <admin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 8/16/2005 10:24:40 AM
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: UPCOMING JUDGE
>
>  While I agree with you that hurting your club is unfair,  I also think
that it is absolutely all of our jobs to make situations like what happened
in Florida public knowledge.  Obviously your club did not know anything
about that situation and you decided to have her way beforehand anyway. 
However, Tom letting everyone know what happened in Florida saves a lot of
us time, money, heartache etc.  Why would I want to go waste my client's $$
under a judge that is so blatent in her choices.   I won't.  I have my list
- trust me! lol  
> And while I very much agree with Laurie about supporting our Specialty
clubs, we also have to make a strong statement to judges that make such
decisions.  Don't show there.  
> The only way to make our system work is to support the good & fair judges
and NOT support the ones that are not doing a good fair job.  
> Jeff
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ruth Anderson <ruthgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: admin@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 10:53:51 -0400
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: UPCOMING JUDGE
>
> Hello Listers all........
>
>
>
> I have several problems with this post by Tom Castriota.
>
> The German Shepherd Dog Club of Central Massachusetts is a small
>
> but very active club.  We work very hard to put on a first class dog show
>
> every year.   It seems to me that this post slamming a judge and naming
>
> our club is blatantly unfair to our club.
>
>
>
>             We routinely ask our exhibitors for suggestions for judges for
> our
>
> upcoming shows.  Judges are selected a year or so in advance.  This judge
>
> was highly recommended by one of our regular exhibitors.
>
>
>
>             If an exhibitor does not like the judge, he/she does not have
to
> enter
>
> our show. It is grossly unfair to publicly slam the judge and by default,
> the
>
> club that has assigned that person to judge.
>
>
>
>             I have not shown any dogs in breed or obedience for years and
do
> not
>
> have any personal axes to grind.  If someone has an ax to grind with a
> judge,
>
> do not try and destroy another club's event to get even.
>
>
>
>             List members, please read Tom's post and take it for what it
is.
> A very
>
> Nasty attack on a judge and by default, our dog club and upcoming show.
>
>
>
> Ruth Anderson
>
> Show secretary and corresponding secretary for the
>
> German Shepherd Dog Club of Central Massachusetts.
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <TCYPRESS@xxxxxxx>
> To: <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 9:51 AM
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] UPCOMING JUDGE
>
>
> > I DONT USUALLY SAY TOO MUCH ABOUT A JUDGE UNLESS THEY ARE BLATANTLY
BAD.I
> > MENTIONED TO THE LIST  ON THE FLA CIRCUIT  A JUDGE  GIVING A CLASS TO A
> YOUNG DOG
> > AFTER SPOOKING 4X AND THEN GIVING IT THE POINTS.YOU PEOPLE TALK ABOUT
OUR
> > STANDARD AND THE ILLUSTRATION HERE'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE WHY IT MEANS
> NOTHING TO
> > THESE PEOPLE WHO KEEP PUTTING UP A POPULAR HANDLERS DOGS AND INSULTING
US
> AT THE
> > SAME TIME.AFTER THAT DAYS SPECTACLE THE SPECTATORS THAT WERE THERE DIDNT
> > RETURN THE REST OF THE WEEK OUT OF DISGUST.
> > THIS PERSON IS MS.L. ROBEY WHO IS JUDGING CENT. MASS GSDC.I CANT BELIEVE
> THIS
> > IS HAPPENING.WHAT ARE PEOPLE THINKING OR ARE THEY?IM NOT TRYING TO HURT
> > ANYONE HERE BUT IVE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS CRAP.THESE PLEASANT CIRCUITS HAVE
> BEEN
> > RUINED FROM FLA TO THE VERMONT CIRRCUIT IT HAS BEEN A SHAM.AND YOU
WONDER
> WHY THE
> > ENTRIES ARE SO BAD.YOU PEOPLE ARE BICKERING CONSTANTLY OVER  EVERYTHING
ON
> THIS
> > LIST BUT LET THE IMPORTANT FACTS AND INFO. GET BY.WHATS NEXT?? I CANT
WAIT
> > FOR THE IDIOTS WHO DO THIS OUTDO THEMSELVES.
> > TOM
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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