Two nationals - so one group misses the dinner with the election results
and awards, the educational programs - in other words much of the reason
for a national. Sounds fair.
Ruth
On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Carolyn Martello <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Just an example of how little some of us Conformation people know about
what is going on in the actual working
venue of our Breed during a National. I was not aware there was any at
the Canadian National...but it has been
quite a while since I have been to Canada. That was when we were
showing BOOKER ....and BONO was being shown.
Now please do not think I am saying we are ALL that way....as we all know
about our own Julie Degen and her great
conformation dogs that do it all. Julie however is Amazing....as is Lori
Nickeson, and Win Strickland and Dalene McIntire.
But there are more exceptions than the general exhibiting members.
I totally appreciate a working dog and actually love herding more than
Conformation....but literally I cannot do both most
of the time.....and when it comes to the National....we are strictly
"conformation" exhibitors!! <G>
I personally think this idea of two separate venues for our National
should be considered. May not work...may not
even be feasible.....but on the other hand.....it may be just exactly what
works the best and well worth giving some
serious thought.
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.marhaven.com
*On Behalf Of *Mary-Anne *Sent:* Thursday, October 27, 2016 10:21 AM *To:*
edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx; Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Two Nationals
We (GSDCC) had agility in the past but couldn’t find enough workers to
help us put the trials on. It came down to myself and two other members.
On top of that, every year the weather outside at Kitchener had gale force
freezing winds which are not conducive to happy agility people. While we
made a fair amount of money, the stress that it left on me was too much and
I resigned my position a few years ago. I found a great person to replace
me. She moved the trials to an indoor venue run by a trial secretary who
supplied all the equipment, judges etc. All that the club had to do was
show up and accept a small renumeration for each run. While this was not
an ideal situation, it did add to the koffers (slightly). If there could
be some way for agility to be run inside at the National, I’m pretty sure
that it would be a successful event.
We looked at offering herding back then but the timing could not be
accommodated even though there was a herding place fairly close to
Kitchener. We have a couple of tracking judges but since one of them runs
the obedience,another ran the Temperament Tests and the other was running
the agility (me), it left it up in the air as to who could run the tracking
tests.
My ideal event would start with Agility at the Red Barn in Barrie, Ontario
on Tuesday & Wednesday evening (inside), Herding at Sue Jewells in Angus or
Rene’s in Fergus on Wednesday, Tracking in Orangeville on Thursday ,
Obedience and Rally Obedience in Kitchener on Friday, Saturday and
Conformation on Saturday & Sunday. However, I was the only person who
thought that this was in any way feasible (and I'm a dreamer as they say)
.
So, there is Rally Obedience, Obedience & Temperament Tests along with the
Conformation in Kitchener.
Mary-Anne Boulet
Albtal German Shepherds
CKC Tracking Judge 😊
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Two Nationals
We have always had conformation and obedience along with the temperament
test. We may be adding agility in the future.....
On the smaller scale while I was in Tx, we split conformation and
obedience and had them at different times so more attention could be
devoted to the individual events. Realize that may not work at national
levels because there are many who compete in several different events.
Molly
---- Original Message ----
From: edwinx <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: freelist
<showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject:
[ SHOWGSD-L ] Two Nationals
Is the number one performance interest of the membership conformation? And
by asking this question I am NOT disrespecting or ignoring the other
aspects of our sport i.e. Herding, obedience, protection, rat hunting
etc.....Would it be possible to hold two Nationals? One strictly for
conformation and maybe obedience, and one National for all the other
activities? This would allow us to consider more sites because we would no
longer be looking for the very few sites that serve all purposes but not
servicing them equally! St Louis seems to work well for the performance
working events, but poorly for conformation ( poorly for our breed at
least) ... how Does Canada handle this? What is offered at their National?
The two National plan would perhaps place a hardship on folks who show in
conformation and the other events, but how many do it? The club needs to
toss around ideas to make our National better and more inclusive! I don't
believe this is the case today ( this was NOT a rant) Ed Hill
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