Awwww, Mike.. .Backyard breeders (byb) coined by AR people and accepted and used by all. People who breed w/out a plan, their own two dogs or a dog down the street, and advertise in the local paper or in the local stores. If the pups don't sell, they often get dumped in the pound. No health concerns or checks, and not concern for "bettering the breed". Puppymills, another AR coined word that is now universally accepted, but is now used to denote ANY breeder who breeds more than a couple litters a year, and sometimes them. Generally, the substandard large volume breeders,not inspected or licensed, house their animal in despicable conditions and breed anything to anything, not matter the health of the parents. Some of these substandard breeders sell to brokers who "legitimatize" the animals and do sell them to pet stores. Large volume breeders who are Inspected and licensed are the major suppliers of petstores. There is a certain amount of concern for establishing pedigrees, there are certain health checks and inspection of facilities for cleanliness. But the animals are "stock" and the care and concern is the same that the breeders would use for "stock". The animals are usuall kept in cages most of their lives and sold at auctions. There is a history of why these large volume breeders got started, and mUCH of it is because we bought into the AR message that breeding more than a couple of litters a year is BAD, and selling our dogs on limited registrations is GOOD. Not all byb breeders are bad people, some care for their dogs, just want an extra income w/out paying stud fees and have the belief that a dog should be able to conceive and give birth w/out much help from humans. Or want their kids to see pups, or juts want ONE litter from their darling cute Fluffy. And remember, a lot of stock dogs are bred "over the back fence" to improve the quality of the animals that take care of the cattle/sheep/etc. Those breeders don't care that AKC, UKC, ASCA think they are wrong. They know what two dogs they want to put together and it isn't for the beauty of the pedigree :-) JMO on a lazy Sunday afternoon Stormy a message dated 12/23/07 1:00:19 PM, mlgray@xxxxxxxx writes: > I thought that was where pet stores obtained their dogs to sell, BYB. I > would not personally consider anyone on this list that I would get a puppy > from a BYB, but then again, I belong to the choir so why preach. Go get > Terry. > Mike Gray > "You may never know what results come from your action. But if you do nothing, there will be no result." Mahatma Gandhi Stormy Hope *~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~* Dog's love is different, it requires no return www.FairhopeGSD.www ************************************** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================