My observations thru the years have brought me to the conclusion that The handlers are the promoters of ""ATTITUDE""...which simply means get your dogs so dependent on you that they become fools in the ring when the handlers have them. It is easy to spot a political judge when you see these totally misbehaving dogs win, when there are other dogs acting correctly..ie. quietly holding their ground...and paying attention to their surroundings on the move...not just ""Where is MAMA""ing... When I started in GSDs we never heard the word ATTITUDE"" this was a creation to make the dogs more exciting...I never recall seeing the word EXCITING in the standard!!!! It seems to me we are catering to our personal needs and desires....The AKC has stated often that it is NOT THE JUDGES JOB TO CREATE A NEW STANDARD!!!!! You know the handlers have one thing on their minds...to win, make the owners happy and collect the $$$$$$...which they often have a right to. I think if the handlers would get to know their charges (DOGS not $$$) so the dogs were comfortable with them as they are with their owners, we would really have a pleasant dog show atmosphere...No more dysfunctional people running you down...no more screaming...do you see this at the Irish Setter ring?...no more chaise where you cant hear the person next to you...Just a nice show atmosphere where we cheer for the dogs we like and don't compete with double handlers for air time.+ It has been said over and over that a judge can not see the movement of a dog whilst they are pulling...this IS a correct statement...SOOO you judges MUST control this type of exhibiting..If a handle is a handler,not just a hang on runner, they can teach a dog to go out in front, and be able to drop the lead...this puts the dog on his own...YES it means working (whaat??) with the dog..I once heard a TOP handler tell an owner not to put this young dog on a lead prior too the Futuriy 6 weeks away...and they did just that.When the Futurity came sure enough the dog displayed its self exactly as you would predict...dragging the handler all over the ring...in the style this handler called handling...For a BIG price I might add!...all for nothing. Bottom line your dogs need MORE training...I tell people over and over watch Jimmy...I have seen specialty handlers in the Group ring absolutely murdering their dogs....watch Jimmy for Gods sake if you are going in to the all breed ring...When a smart person sees something that works...they copy it!!!!! Enough pontificating for now...(he)he) CHuck krugerdvm ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================