Same reasoning I use when my dog sees another dog across the road - or a rabbit, deer etc. and i say "no" or whatever command I've taught, or when they are after something and I say "leave it". They MUST obey for their own safety. Maybe more dogs would not bolt out the door or gate if they learned this lesson. If my child started putting his/her hand in a light socket or crossing a street alone without permission, would i simply give a talk on why they shouldn't do that or would i give a lesson they wouldn't soon forget by some well placed discipline on the posterior! This can save their life. JMO and I'm sure some will be upset by this. Anne, GA Sent from Anne's iPad > On Jan 21, 2014, at 5:39 PM, "Stormy V. Hope" <stormy435@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Her Philosophy? "In the real world, your dog obeys you no matter what. Get > over it!” ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION: http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================