we were taught by a well-known trainer of the day to observe - is the dog confused by the command (maybe you didn't give it right), does he just not know or understand, or is he being deliberately disobedient. The training/correction was according to the above. If the dog just sat there and appeared confused, you need to be more clear in showing what you want. You don't correct a kid or animal for what they don't know. But if they deliberately disobey, they get a correction appropriate to the disobedience. i.e. my dog would sit and I would go on the other side of the jump and act like an idiot using the motion to get him to jump and come etc. It was ineresting to see the 'lightbulb' come on and he would jump at the appropriate time and hand signal or verbal command. BUT if he deliberately went around the jump, he got a gentle correction and put back in place and no praise. If he decided to get up and go away to another place, the correction was a bit stronger. Anyway, it worked like a charm. Anne, GA Sent from Anne's iPad > On Apr 7, 2014, at 3:01 PM, Kay Springer <showgsd@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > they break a sit or down and I know that they > know the command, they do get a physical correction. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION: http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================