At 03:10 AM 7/8/05 -0400, Karen C. wrote: >Evan is absolutely correct in stating white with red was the original >IS color which nearly went extinct! But the Irish Red & White Setter >has long been established as a totally separate breed, both here and >abroad. They won't be joining the Irish Setter anytime soon... unless >you are talking about the Group ring. We like 'em just where they are >and just the way they are! I sure hope they can join the AKC Sporting >Group very soon! They're like our dogs' long lost relatives... ;) The Irish Red and White Setter is a recognized breed in Canada, and I know a very fine one who has multiple group placements and is a wonderful dog. A lady in Ontario has bred them for years. Jill Canada ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================