[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Toxic Gut Syndrome/Mesenteric Torsion
- From: "Ginger Cleary" <cleary1414@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "Showgsd-L@Freelists. Org" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 00:02:34 -0400
My male, Max was tested at three years of age... shortly after I got him. He
was, to quote the vet "borderline". He DID however already exhibit symptoms
of EPI. In fact, the ONLY thing that enabled him to keep weight on and not
have constant diarrhea was Dr Krueger's supplement.
Max was never bred.
Though it was not what ultimately killed him, that was cancer.
Hemangiosarcoma, in fact. Another prevalent problem in GSDs.
Ginger Cleary, Rome, GA
"A lie gets halfway around the world before
the truth has a chance to put its pants on."
~ Winston Churchill
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Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Toxic Gut Syndrome/Mesenteric Torsion
I do believe they meant for testing to be done at six months for
establishing a baseline and guide to go by for further testing down the
road. EPI is a progressive disease, so it takes time for it to become a
problem, so if it is an EPI problem you will see a change in the levels from
the six month measure to a later testing measure.
Judy in MN, health and genetics committee
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From: <Santanagsd1954@xxxxxx>
To: <rockannand@xxxxxxx>; <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <amergsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <Germanshepherds4SHOW@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 5:44 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Toxic Gut Syndrome/Mesenteric Torsion
> In a message dated 6/5/2006 3:18:01 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> It sounds like testing at 6 mo. is still too early. Many animals are bred
> somewhere after their 2nd heat if it's a bitch and perhaps earlier if a
> male.
> That's early for me.... I like the number on the fore and aft but, my
> question I
> guess, should be.... Will the pancreas show signs at this time of damage?
> If
> not, what age bracket are Breeders looking at to be able to have this
> genetic
> question answered?
>
> Kate Syssoloff
>
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>>
>> From: Santanagsd1954@xxxxxx
>> Date: 06/05/06 13:39:57
>> To: amergsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Cc: Germanshepherds4Show@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Toxic Gut Syndrome/Mesenteric Torsion
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>> To all German Shepherd Fanciers:
>> I have been in contact with Dr. Chuck Krueger and I am sending on, at
>> his
>> request, the updated article he wrote...As many of you know, Dr. Krueger
>> was a
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Some Shepherds are not showing Pancreatic Enzyme Defiencency until 5
>> years
>> of age...or some later...The Pancreas deteriorates in some Shepherds,
>> much
>> faster than in others, in particular, it appears to decline more rapidly,
>> with
>> more severe symptoms, where there has been extensive line-breeding back
>> and
>> forth to affected individuals, they show younger progeny dying of
>> advanced
>> complications of the lost enzymes and SIBO, setting in, etc. Imagine
>> it
>> as a Hip or Elbow Disease... When you concentrate the Genetic
>> probabilities,
>> you concentrate and assure the presence of the Disease expressing itself
>> in
>> the progeny.
>
> Some dogs are protected, to an extent, with Supplements of Enzymes like
> Viokase...which do service for the degenerating Pancreas and keep the
> deadliest of
> SIBO/IFBD, effects from expressing themselves as Toxic Gut/Mesenteric
> torsion... BUT...if these enzymes were not available, the Disease and the
> ultimate
> consequences of it ( SIBO) leading to Toxic Gut/Mesenteric
> Torsion...would
> express themselves earlier and more dramatically and tragically for our
> Breed..
> Early Testing is merely a Band-Aid on the wound until we have DNA
> Markers...BUT...IT IS SOMETHING!!!!! Perhaps we can catch a few in the
> process and
> alert breeders to the fact that they have the genetic propensity of it in
> their
> breeding Stock and take the necessary precautions to breed out and away
> from
> it!!! Someone asked and I'll answer that question what is PAA? It is
> PANCREATIC ACINAR ATROPHY...A wasting away of the Pancreas..which results
> in Exocrine
> Pancreatic Insuffiencency , a loss of Digestive Enzymes, so the Shepherd
> with
> such a condition cannot readily digest it's food and benefit with the
> nutrients from their food. Barb Williams
>
>
>
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