[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Toxic Gut Syndrome

  • From: Sally Hayden <dan-ann@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: "campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx" <campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx>, "JANGSD@xxxxxxx" <jangsd@xxxxxxx>, <lnnurmi@xxxxxxx>, "showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:20:52 -0600

Sorry Joan - I disagree with you-when it happens to you it is devistating and  
the post contained a lot of research and information that all people can 
benifit from whether you agree or not.
 
sally> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 09:13:40 -0800> From: campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx> 
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Toxic Gut Syndrome> To: JANGSD@xxxxxxx; 
Lnnurmi@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > This has no place on any list and 
should have been sent PRIVATELY.> The dogs and people are very identifiable.> 
JMHO.> Joan> > > > ________________________________> From: "JANGSD@xxxxxxx" 
<JANGSD@xxxxxxx>> To: Lnnurmi@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, 
January 17, 2009 12:06:51 PM> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Toxic Gut Syndrome> > 
Linda,> > Our Louie passed away at the age of 5 from Toxic Gut.  Here is a 
letter I > wrote to Louie's Breeder about what I found out about this terrible 
disease:> > Hi,> > Well, after weeks of looking into what happened to Louie and 
talking to some> very knowledgeable people, we do feel we have a real good 
understanding of> what happened, why it happened and how to "try" to prevent it 
from happening> from any of our "Louie" kids or any of our kids for that 
matter. Now, it is> for everyone to choice what they will feed and what 
supplements they will> use, but this is what we will be doing and the program 
we will be following.> > First off, we blame NO one for Louie's death. It is 
something that happened> and if we had known what we know now, maybe, just 
maybe Louie would still be> with us. But we did not know that there was a 
predisposition to Toxic Gut> in his pedigree, we did not understand all the 
factors that go into setting> up the gut for this dreadful disease to take hold 
of our Louie and lastly to> recognize that when he got sick, that it was 
possibly Toxic Gut and what we> could do to try to save him. All we had ever 
known of Toxic Gut was that it> could happen to your dog at the vets office and 
you would not be able to> save him. That was our limited knowledge of this 
dreaded disease. And to> some extend that is true. I have consulted with our 
vets, Linda Arndt (the> Great Dane lady, a canine Nutrition consultant) and Dr. 
Krueger.> > There are 3 very important factors that lead to Louie's death. His> 
predisposition in his pedigree to Toxic Gut, the lower quality food he was> on 
and the absence of probiotics. The root of the problem we feel was the> lower 
quality food he was on. Tim feds Purina Dog Chow (please, we do not> blame Tim, 
this is what he feeds and he thinks his dogs do fine on it. AND> we could have 
demanded that he feed something else.) These lower quality> foods lend to the 
accumulation of large amounts of debris in the intestinal> lining, and thus a 
GREAT place to grow bacteria. Now, throw in a move,> different food, and it 
sets up the immune system to fail to the degree that> the intestinal bacteria 
will grow even more rapidly. We had started to> introduce Louie to a good 
quality food after his first week with us and had> started the probiotics as 
soon as we got him. What I didn't know, was I> should have doubled or even 
tripled the amount that I was giving him, due to> the poor quality diet he was 
on and the stress of the move. That may in> itself have saved our Louie. It's 
kind of like sending in the "good" army> to fight off the bad guys that was 
growing like crazy. Not enough good guys> and the bad guys win. This time they 
did.> > Now, in Louie's pedigree, we have found out that Dakota died of TGS as 
did> his sire Raider. Dakota's brother Dragonslayer also died of TGS. Dr.> 
Krueger said all the dogs he lost from Toxic Gut were Raider and Dakota> kids.> 
> This is what we are going to do to try and prevent this from happening to> 
any of our kids again. Since nutrition and the use of Probiotics and> digestive 
enzmes are so important in keeping the gut in balance, (thus> preventing the 
bad bacteria to take hold again and cause bloat or TGS), this> is what we are 
doing. Now every component to this feed program has an> important job to do, 
and is an integral part of keeping the dog healthy. To> use only part of this 
program defeats the concept of wholeness and better> health for the dog. This 
program was designed by the Great Dane lady to> give our dogs a "fighting" 
chance. Her wealth of knowlege is incrediable.> I am giving you her 
explanations of why we are using these components. She> of course can say it so 
much better then I!!! There are 4 components to> this program. First we are 
feeding a quality Kibble. That as seen with> Louie, is very important.> > 1. 
Good Quality Food ~This is a list of better quality foods, based on the> ethics 
of the company, laboratory tests, guaranteed analysis and Linda's own> feed 
trials.> > Eagle 1-800-255-5959> Precise 1-800-446-7148> Pinnacle 1 - 
800-255-4286> Canidae 1-800-398-1600> Wellness 1- 800-225-0904> PHD (Perfect 
Healthy Diet) 1-800-320-7062> Innova 1-800-532-7261 (calorie dense so watch 
amounts on> puppies)> Back to Basics 1-800-219-2558> Wysong 1-800-748-0188> 
Flint River Ranch 1-909-682-5048> Life's Abundance 1 - 609-893-5108> Canidae 1 
- 800 -398-1600> Natural Balance 1-800 - 829-4493> Nature's Recipe - Working 
Group-Formula 1-800-933-2880> > We are using Eagle:> Eagle Natural 23% protein 
12%fat - weaning, all ages puppies and through> adulthood> Eagle Holistic 24% 
protein 14% fat - puppies over 10 months - adults> Eagle Original 25% protein 
15%fat - puppies over 10 months - adults> Eagle Senior 26% protein 10% fat - 5 
yrs and older or dogs with weight> problems.> > 2. If you feed a commercial 
Kibble, our dog's diet is absent of one> critical nutrient that you must put 
back into the diet on a daily basis.> Dietary enzymes are killed during the 
cooking and processing of Kibble.> This critical nutrient is missing from all 
commercial diets and the absence> of this dietary enzyme has long term effects 
on the body resulting in skin> problems (allergies), seizures, orthopedic 
problems and suppressed immune> system.see info below.> > Nzymes - Dietary 
enzymes in the form of granular (if you have many animals)> or a chewable pet 
treat> > Why Nzymes ? - because dietary enzymes are in ALL foods, but they are 
heat> sensitive and lost in processing/cooking of all commercial foods or 
making> home cooked diets. Consequently, if you feed a commercial kibble, your 
dog> is lacking essential nutrients (dietary enzymes) that would normally come 
to> them through living foods. That means, you must provide these dietary> 
enzymes to the diet.> > What do dietary enzymes like the Nzymes do?> > Nzymes 
provide the body with the right nutrients to allow the body to make> the 
chemicals necessary for the body to detoxify and repair itself. By doing> so,> 
Nzymes is a natural anti-inflammatory, it helps prevent allergic reactions,> 
seizures, vaccine reactions, cleans residual toxins from the system due to> 
medicines, flea and parasite preparations. Nzymes boost the immune system,> 
help to stop excessive shedding, and ear infections, bladder infections,> yeast 
infection, hotspots and speeds healing time from injury, surgery> 
(bloat/c-sections) and recovery time from anesthesia .> > Nzymes a natural 
anti-inflammatory, therefore are beneficial for arthritis> pain in joints on 
old and young growing puppies (HOD, OCD, Pano) and other> orthopedic injuries 
or diseases such as ACL, Hip Dysplasia and Wobblers). If> one wants to avoid 
some of the risky arthritis medications on the market> (Rimadyl), Nzymes are a 
great alternative to this treatment. Nzymes are> nutrients from foods so do not 
conflict with your diet or any medications.> Linda has used the Nzymes for 16 
years for her animals and has take the> human product for 11years and have seen 
remarkable changes in her health.> We have seen amazing results in our dogs in 
only a short time with the> Nzymes. Jerry said he has never seen O.B. look so 
good and Candi "was" the> pickiest eater in the WORLD, is now eating EVERY meal 
with relish!!!> > By incorporating Nzymes into the diet, you are putting back 
the "living> component"> into the modern processed/cooked diets which gives the 
body the tools it> needs for repair and good health.> > Here is their website; 
Biopet Nzymes for Dogs and Cats> _http://www.nzymes.com/_ 
(http://www.nzymes.com/) > > Call and talk to Stan at Nzymes, he is a wonderful 
and caring man,> and he will provide you with assistance for your particular 
problem.> 877- 816- 6500 - 8:00-6:00 PST> > 3. BacPakPlus Fortified /w Yucca> > 
BakPak Plus is the strongest probiotics on the market today.> 
BacPakPlus-Fortified is 6 beneficial bacteria's, digestive enzymes and> yucca. 
Some of the bacterias in this product is microencapsulated to be> released in 
the lower intestine for tough to handle intestinal problems such> as IBD, 
Giardia protozoa, bacterial infection, stress or bloat recovery,> loose stool, 
Parvo etc. When a dog is on antibiotics, they MUST be on> Probiotics at the 
same time and continue after, to replenish the intestinal> flora of the gut. 
Otherwise you will get loose stools and opportunistic bad> bacteria, such as 
staph, or yeast/fungus can start to flourish in the gut.> > One pound lasts for 
many months and it is not cost prohibitive and the> benefits> are well worth 
the use. Breeds that are prone to Bloat/Torsion need> probiotic> cultures in 
their diet to help keep the pH balance where it should be as> well as help 
boost the immune system.> To Order: 800 - 872-0073> > Vitamin C> Use 1000mg 
daily of Ascorbic Acid.> If using Ester C only use 500 mg.> > DO NOT USE HOT OR 
WARM WATER ON YOUR KIBBLE, IT WILL DESTROY THE INTEGRITY OF > THE YOGURT LIKE 
CULTURES AND VITAMIN/MINERALS ON THE FOOD. USE TEPID WATER.> > 4. OXY- DROPS 
Oxy-drops are a safe, stable, inorganic, liquid compound> that has demonstrated 
efficacy as a bactericidal, fungicidal and virucidal> agent. Oxy-drops are 
important for animals that are prone to bloat. If the> bloating is caused by 
systemic fungus (Leaky Gut Syndrome) or pathogenic> bacteria (Toxic Gut 
Syndrome), Oxydrops will help keep these in check as> well as help maintain the 
correct pH of the gut.> > Oxy-drops enhances the immune system and second it 
releases slowly and> oxidizes, cleaning toxins from the body. Oxy-drops acts on 
the organism at> cellular level with no unwanted side effects. The best use of 
Oxydrops is to> mix according to instructions and pour over the dogs food twice 
daily.> Oxy-drops have many other applications, in a diluted form. For other 
uses> see the websites below.> > _http://www.nzymes.com/product-oxydrops.htm_ > 
(http://www.nzymes.com/product-oxydrops.htm) > > So the "prevention" program we 
decided on was a good quality food, Nzymes,> BakPak Plus, and Oxi-drops. When 
you dog is traveling or under stress,> double your nzymes and probiotics. What 
may have also saved Louie that> night was the Oxy-drops. We had them, but did 
not know of their usefulness> at that time. When we ordered our Nzymes we got 
the Oxy-drops free. They> were sitting on my micro wave. I had no idea that 
they might have helped> him. We could have administered the Oxy-drops rectally 
and maybe, it could> have helped him. If you decide to use Oxy-drops, Stan will 
send you> instructions on use when it is a crisis situation.> > Now, for the 
next step. If mother nature decides that she will prevail and> our preventative 
measures have failed this is what needs to be done. If you> suspect the dog is 
just "not right" give him some Metranidazol orally RIGHT> NOW!!!! The dosage is 
500 mgm per 15 lbs body weight. Any bloody diarrhea,> or vomiting (vomiting 
more then say twice), even tho the dog looks good> should send you to the vet. 
If an x-ray shows any gas accumulation...operate > NOW>>>>>>>>ask questions 
later. IV SHOULD BE STARTED and Met. given > intravenously. Oral Met. is 
probaly not going to be enough. You can check with your vet > and see if they 
have the liquid form. If not, I> am contacting a company that may carry it. 
Your vet should stock it and you> should have some to take with you when 
traveling. So if you have an> emergency on the road, you will have it if the 
vet you end up at does not.> Maybe with some luck you may be able to save the 
dog.> > But we are all hoping that with using a good quality food, using the> 
probiotics RELIGIOUSLY (and doubling during periods of stress), using the> 
Nzymes and the Oxy-drops, we will never see TGS again. But in case, we> will 
have lots of Met. tablets and liquid handy.> > Take care,> > Janet & Jerry> > 
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