[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Toxic Gut Syndrome

  • From: Joan Fox <campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: JANGSD@xxxxxxx, Lnnurmi@xxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 09:13:40 -0800 (PST)

This has no place on any list and should have been sent PRIVATELY.
The dogs and people are very identifiable.
JMHO.
Joan



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From: "JANGSD@xxxxxxx" <JANGSD@xxxxxxx>
To: Lnnurmi@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 12:06:51 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Toxic Gut Syndrome

Linda,

Our Louie passed away at the age of 5 from Toxic Gut.  Here is a letter I 
wrote to Louie's Breeder about what I found out about this terrible disease:

Hi,

Well, after weeks of looking into what happened to Louie and talking to some
very knowledgeable people, we do feel we have a real good understanding of
what happened, why it happened and how to "try" to prevent it from happening
from any of our "Louie" kids or any of our kids for that matter. Now, it is
for everyone to choice what they will feed and what supplements they will
use, but this is what we will be doing and the program we will be following.

First off, we blame NO one for Louie's death. It is something that happened
and if we had known what we know now, maybe, just maybe Louie would still be
with us. But we did not know that there was a predisposition to Toxic Gut
in his pedigree, we did not understand all the factors that go into setting
up the gut for this dreadful disease to take hold of our Louie and lastly to
recognize that when he got sick, that it was possibly Toxic Gut and what we
could do to try to save him. All we had ever known of Toxic Gut was that it
could happen to your dog at the vets office and you would not be able to
save him. That was our limited knowledge of this dreaded disease. And to
some extend that is true. I have consulted with our vets, Linda Arndt (the
Great Dane lady, a canine Nutrition consultant) and Dr. Krueger.

There are 3 very important factors that lead to Louie's death. His
predisposition in his pedigree to Toxic Gut, the lower quality food he was
on and the absence of probiotics. The root of the problem we feel was the
lower quality food he was on. Tim feds Purina Dog Chow (please, we do not
blame Tim, this is what he feeds and he thinks his dogs do fine on it. AND
we could have demanded that he feed something else.) These lower quality
foods lend to the accumulation of large amounts of debris in the intestinal
lining, and thus a GREAT place to grow bacteria. Now, throw in a move,
different food, and it sets up the immune system to fail to the degree that
the intestinal bacteria will grow even more rapidly. We had started to
introduce Louie to a good quality food after his first week with us and had
started the probiotics as soon as we got him. What I didn't know, was I
should have doubled or even tripled the amount that I was giving him, due to
the poor quality diet he was on and the stress of the move. That may in
itself have saved our Louie. It's kind of like sending in the "good" army
to fight off the bad guys that was growing like crazy. Not enough good guys
and the bad guys win. This time they did.

Now, in Louie's pedigree, we have found out that Dakota died of TGS as did
his sire Raider. Dakota's brother Dragonslayer also died of TGS. Dr.
Krueger said all the dogs he lost from Toxic Gut were Raider and Dakota
kids.

This is what we are going to do to try and prevent this from happening to
any of our kids again. Since nutrition and the use of Probiotics and
digestive enzmes are so important in keeping the gut in balance, (thus
preventing the bad bacteria to take hold again and cause bloat or TGS), this
is what we are doing. Now every component to this feed program has an
important job to do, and is an integral part of keeping the dog healthy. To
use only part of this program defeats the concept of wholeness and better
health for the dog. This program was designed by the Great Dane lady to
give our dogs a "fighting" chance. Her wealth of knowlege is incrediable.
I am giving you her explanations of why we are using these components. She
of course can say it so much better then I!!! There are 4 components to
this program. First we are feeding a quality Kibble. That as seen with
Louie, is very important.

1. Good Quality Food ~This is a list of better quality foods, based on the
ethics of the company, laboratory tests, guaranteed analysis and Linda's own
feed trials.

Eagle 1-800-255-5959
Precise 1-800-446-7148
Pinnacle 1 - 800-255-4286
Canidae 1-800-398-1600
Wellness 1- 800-225-0904
PHD (Perfect Healthy Diet) 1-800-320-7062
Innova 1-800-532-7261 (calorie dense so watch amounts on
puppies)
Back to Basics 1-800-219-2558
Wysong 1-800-748-0188
Flint River Ranch 1-909-682-5048
Life's Abundance 1 - 609-893-5108
Canidae 1 - 800 -398-1600
Natural Balance 1-800 - 829-4493
Nature's Recipe - Working Group-Formula 1-800-933-2880

We are using Eagle:
Eagle Natural 23% protein 12%fat - weaning, all ages puppies and through
adulthood
Eagle Holistic 24% protein 14% fat - puppies over 10 months - adults
Eagle Original 25% protein 15%fat - puppies over 10 months - adults
Eagle Senior 26% protein 10% fat - 5 yrs and older or dogs with weight
problems.

2. If you feed a commercial Kibble, our dog's diet is absent of one
critical nutrient that you must put back into the diet on a daily basis.
Dietary enzymes are killed during the cooking and processing of Kibble.
This critical nutrient is missing from all commercial diets and the absence
of this dietary enzyme has long term effects on the body resulting in skin
problems (allergies), seizures, orthopedic problems and suppressed immune
system.see info below.

Nzymes - Dietary enzymes in the form of granular (if you have many animals)
or a chewable pet treat

Why Nzymes ? - because dietary enzymes are in ALL foods, but they are heat
sensitive and lost in processing/cooking of all commercial foods or making
home cooked diets. Consequently, if you feed a commercial kibble, your dog
is lacking essential nutrients (dietary enzymes) that would normally come to
them through living foods. That means, you must provide these dietary
enzymes to the diet.

What do dietary enzymes like the Nzymes do?

Nzymes provide the body with the right nutrients to allow the body to make
the chemicals necessary for the body to detoxify and repair itself. By doing
so,
Nzymes is a natural anti-inflammatory, it helps prevent allergic reactions,
seizures, vaccine reactions, cleans residual toxins from the system due to
medicines, flea and parasite preparations. Nzymes boost the immune system,
help to stop excessive shedding, and ear infections, bladder infections,
yeast infection, hotspots and speeds healing time from injury, surgery
(bloat/c-sections) and recovery time from anesthesia .

Nzymes a natural anti-inflammatory, therefore are beneficial for arthritis
pain in joints on old and young growing puppies (HOD, OCD, Pano) and other
orthopedic injuries or diseases such as ACL, Hip Dysplasia and Wobblers). If
one wants to avoid some of the risky arthritis medications on the market
(Rimadyl), Nzymes are a great alternative to this treatment. Nzymes are
nutrients from foods so do not conflict with your diet or any medications.
Linda has used the Nzymes for 16 years for her animals and has take the
human product for 11years and have seen remarkable changes in her health.
We have seen amazing results in our dogs in only a short time with the
Nzymes. Jerry said he has never seen O.B. look so good and Candi "was" the
pickiest eater in the WORLD, is now eating EVERY meal with relish!!!

By incorporating Nzymes into the diet, you are putting back the "living
component"
into the modern processed/cooked diets which gives the body the tools it
needs for repair and good health.

Here is their website; Biopet Nzymes for Dogs and Cats
_http://www.nzymes.com/_ (http://www.nzymes.com/) 

Call and talk to Stan at Nzymes, he is a wonderful and caring man,
and he will provide you with assistance for your particular problem.
877- 816- 6500 - 8:00-6:00 PST

3. BacPakPlus Fortified /w Yucca

BakPak Plus is the strongest probiotics on the market today.
BacPakPlus-Fortified is 6 beneficial bacteria's, digestive enzymes and
yucca. Some of the bacterias in this product is microencapsulated to be
released in the lower intestine for tough to handle intestinal problems such
as IBD, Giardia protozoa, bacterial infection, stress or bloat recovery,
loose stool, Parvo etc. When a dog is on antibiotics, they MUST be on
Probiotics at the same time and continue after, to replenish the intestinal
flora of the gut. Otherwise you will get loose stools and opportunistic bad
bacteria, such as staph, or yeast/fungus can start to flourish in the gut.

One pound lasts for many months and it is not cost prohibitive and the
benefits
are well worth the use. Breeds that are prone to Bloat/Torsion need
probiotic
cultures in their diet to help keep the pH balance where it should be as
well as help boost the immune system.
To Order: 800 - 872-0073

Vitamin C
Use 1000mg daily of Ascorbic Acid.
If using Ester C only use 500 mg.

DO NOT USE HOT OR WARM WATER ON YOUR KIBBLE, IT WILL DESTROY THE INTEGRITY OF 
THE YOGURT LIKE CULTURES AND VITAMIN/MINERALS ON THE FOOD. USE TEPID WATER.

4. OXY- DROPS Oxy-drops are a safe, stable, inorganic, liquid compound
that has demonstrated efficacy as a bactericidal, fungicidal and virucidal
agent. Oxy-drops are important for animals that are prone to bloat. If the
bloating is caused by systemic fungus (Leaky Gut Syndrome) or pathogenic
bacteria (Toxic Gut Syndrome), Oxydrops will help keep these in check as
well as help maintain the correct pH of the gut.

Oxy-drops enhances the immune system and second it releases slowly and
oxidizes, cleaning toxins from the body. Oxy-drops acts on the organism at
cellular level with no unwanted side effects. The best use of Oxydrops is to
mix according to instructions and pour over the dogs food twice daily.
Oxy-drops have many other applications, in a diluted form. For other uses
see the websites below.

_http://www.nzymes.com/product-oxydrops.htm_ 
(http://www.nzymes.com/product-oxydrops.htm) 

So the "prevention" program we decided on was a good quality food, Nzymes,
BakPak Plus, and Oxi-drops. When you dog is traveling or under stress,
double your nzymes and probiotics. What may have also saved Louie that
night was the Oxy-drops. We had them, but did not know of their usefulness
at that time. When we ordered our Nzymes we got the Oxy-drops free. They
were sitting on my micro wave. I had no idea that they might have helped
him. We could have administered the Oxy-drops rectally and maybe, it could
have helped him. If you decide to use Oxy-drops, Stan will send you
instructions on use when it is a crisis situation.

Now, for the next step. If mother nature decides that she will prevail and
our preventative measures have failed this is what needs to be done. If you
suspect the dog is just "not right" give him some Metranidazol orally RIGHT
NOW!!!! The dosage is 500 mgm per 15 lbs body weight. Any bloody diarrhea,
or vomiting (vomiting more then say twice), even tho the dog looks good
should send you to the vet. If an x-ray shows any gas accumulation...operate 
NOW>>>>>>>>ask questions later. IV SHOULD BE STARTED and Met. given 
intravenously. Oral Met. is probaly not going to be enough. You can check with 
your vet 
and see if they have the liquid form. If not, I
am contacting a company that may carry it. Your vet should stock it and you
should have some to take with you when traveling. So if you have an
emergency on the road, you will have it if the vet you end up at does not.
Maybe with some luck you may be able to save the dog.

But we are all hoping that with using a good quality food, using the
probiotics RELIGIOUSLY (and doubling during periods of stress), using the
Nzymes and the Oxy-drops, we will never see TGS again. But in case, we
will have lots of Met. tablets and liquid handy.

Take care,

Janet & Jerry

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