I have both bred and owned Select's. Those Red and Black ribbons never get old. But I think my favorite treasure of all, is the lovely wooden ROM plaques. That has more meaning then all else. It means that your dog/bitch left a lasting mark on the breed forever. All my trophies have been given to clubs, except those (and the black & red ribbons.) Totally awesome to me may be the ugliest dog on 4 legs that has given us the most wonderful babies. Helen Franklin, AOE Chair, 48 year member GSDCA, "A German Shepherd owns the ground he stands on.... ...he does not run or bite if you wish to share it!" -----Original Message----- From: Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm <scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx> To: pcooke212 <pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx>; showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 2:26 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Totally Awesome Select GSD's :-) I would I have seen of Harley, I believe he is a wonderful GSD with great emperament, orrect conformation with great movement. watch the GSD Nationals by video feed, along with all the breed shows on TV ut t is not the same as being there. Watching videos in YouTube of GSD Speciality hows also gives you ideas of the good and bad GSD's out there. hen I attend the All-Breed Shows in MI and IN I do see several GSD's with erious conformation faults, their movement is totally incorrect and their emperament undesirable, I also see this at GSD Speciality shows too. Since nyone can show their GSD's at these shows and the good GSD owners and breeders hoose the shows they attend they are not always there. So the big picture is he GSD gets a bad rap with ill-tempered unstable dogs, with poor conformation nd movement. If only the top GSD's in several states as they did years ago ould attend these shows it could make all the difference in the world for the SD breed. People would be educated not to buy just any GSD from someone that ever health tests their good dogs or promotes them. do not travel as I use to, I use to attend horse shows Eastern National in MA o Grand National in OK. I guess I should have taken in Dog Shows at the time ut was way o involved with horses. The GSD Speciality Show I attended years ago though did ave lots more dogs than they do today. I do understand this though since cost f as, showing and traveling is much more costly today. n Mon, 3/5/12, Paula M. Cooke <pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: dog that went Select Excellent in 2011 was excused for temperament at the 2009 nd 2010 Nationals. He is very well trained now, yet his owner/handler will not ubject him to the test to get a TC. He recently fooled a judge I have always espected for his/her stand on, and eye for, temperament. Very sad, and I am, et again, disillusioned. His training (or meds?) now make him a tail-wagging, issy-face! GSD's are NOT supposed to be Golden Retrievers, even though we have heapened the OFA CHIC to be more competitive with Goldens, please don't change ur Standard, too! Aloof and approachable are wonderful attributes in the reed. JMHO I will say, my observation only, that breeders seem to have come a long way with emperament since the 70's. Harley and his granddam, CH Diana, are the first SD's I have owned that are NOT gun-shy. Why aren't breeders more proud of that chievement? BTW, I do love Capi, but, Harley had kids hanging all over him, too. Taking any pictures, feeding him all kinds of garbage. There were good temperamented ogs both at Westminster and at Eukanuba. Made me proud of our breed. But, there are still some very serious health and temperament problems, over ll. Sadly, I see these temperament problems more at Specialty Shows and at our ational than at All-Breeds. Paula, 218 days and counting Home of BIS, BISS, Multi-Group Winning, 2 Time AKC JAM/AOE, Intern'l & Am CH, ilver Grand Champion Asgard Harley Davidson, HT, PT, CGC, TC, HIC, OFA CHIC 64047 (Hips, Elbows, Cardiac, & Thyroid), 1st male GSD Grand Champion. 2010 #1 SD in California, Lifetime #1 GSD in Michigan, 2010 #1 GSD male in USA (AKC GCH tats), 2011 Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show Invitee, 2010-2011-Lifetime AKC ukanuba Invitee. 2 Time Cruft's Invitee. --------- Original Message ---------- ate: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 11:20:14 -0800 (PST) rom: Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm <scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx> ubject: Re: Totally Awesome Select GSD's :-) Is it not true though there are ways to prepare for the temperament tests ahead f time?� If a GSD does not become rattled by anything or anyone would that ot prove their temperament?� read and heard that years ago�when Max�von�Stephanitz udged conformation classes that he would have someone shoot a gun off and the ogs that reacted in fear would be excused.� That could not be done today but oud noises do show whether a dog is of sound temperament.� How many GSD's today re afraid f thunder?� How many put their tails between there legs when someone pproaches them or backs away�when being�judged?� You do not need a temperament est to prove these GSD's are not of stable temperament.� s Capi proved to everyone when he was shown at the Westmister Dog Show this ear that he was a good temperament GSD accepting children or anyone that pproached him.� Got along with others in the ring be it a person or dog, the elling of everyone in the crowd did not faze him that is a good dog to be proud f.� heresa ===========================================================================OST is Copyrighted 2011. 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