I agree, Jackie. The funny thing about the internet is that there is no way to really tell, for sure, what context something is being said. Also, each of us talks differently, and things may appear differently when written. This List has tons of experience and education. We all love our GSDs - regardless of color, or whether they are show dogs or family pets. A novice person is asking for the Lists' knowledge. Lets not turn another "newbie" away from our wonderful breed. I am sure she feels frustrated because she has two different groups of GSD people (show vs working) telling her conflicting information. Please show some restraint in criticizing. Or, at least, do it privately and not on the List. Barb Hively - PA DNA. It's what makes a white, a German Shepherd -----Original Message----- From: Jackie Short-Nguyen <marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wed, Dec 7, 2011 3:11 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Topic change - was Apology to The List I disagree that she's being smug. Personally, I feel that she's hallenging what people are saying. A person can ask for help and advice and take some of that help and advice) and still disagree with parts of hat they're being told. elp and advice is often wanted and needed, but people are only going to ake the parts that are useful to them, or, take what's useful at that resent time, and use the rest later. And even if somebody ASKS for advice, they are not obligated to take it. t is "food for thought". Not always consumed. Sometimes it ends up as eftovers. -- ackie & Jonathan Nguyen Marcato German hepherds<http://www.marcatogermanshepherds.com> Konzert vom Drachenberg, CD, RN, CGC, SD "Strauss" evine's Gunpowder N Lead RN "Mirada" ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================