well, I can tell you that we were truly surprised, as we dont keep up with the tabulations...I did for Harley...that was fun...<G> * Ileana * Love me, love my dogs. In a message dated 8/11/2012 11:56:15 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ELG440@xxxxxxx writes: There are so many different lists and "Top" this and "Top" that, that I try to not get too impressed with the lists. That does not include the top ten female hard bodies, or the top ten songs of the 50s. On this list of the top 25, I saw some dogs that have impressed me, such as Dexter, and some that I never thought should be listed in the top anything for German shepherds. I pity number 26, who is probably a perfectly good dog. It appears to have something to do with all-breed showing, and Grand Champions. I was pleased to see Kirk in there at 21, and remember when we called Ellie Gode to see if possibly our house and stud dog made the top ten. She told us we had to wait for it to be published the next week. We were blown away to see that Champion Asgard's Big Ben of Encore ROM was number one. Then the next year to see his son number one that year. I guess there is something to this, and I am sure there is some reason to be proud. I have never watched to see how my dogs were doing, or tried to win this sort of competition. I don't even know if there is such a thing as winner. That seems to mean there is someone who loses. Maybe we need to do the top German shepherd judges each year. I like contests where you don't have to pay to enter, you don't know what the judging is done on, you don't sweat someone beating you, and you have no idea it is coming out until it is decided. What basis would you use to list judges? Here are my suggestions. 1. Age 2. Mobility 3. Number of dogs judged that year 4. Number of dogs put up from his/her kennel 5. Amount of entry fees paid for his/her own dogs in the prior year 6. Hair, amount, color (natural), and quantity 7. Willingness to pay own way to judge a show 8. Times he/she got in a fight with another judge 9. Times he/she said something new about the dogs they judged after the show 10. Easiest name to pronounce What additional criteria would you suggest? Flower Boy? Evan L. Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================