[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Tommorow is another day, La De Da

From: "John DeHope" <HyHope@xxxxxxx>
To: "ELG440" <ELG440@xxxxxxx>, "showgsd-l" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "John DeHope" <HyHope@xxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 20:30:33 -0400
I am getting a headache. I would think that someone running for President of 
this club would tell the whole story and not just the part that that might 
benefit you. Why did you leave out the most important part of the Select 
definition. If you are having trouble reading it I will print it in CAPS. I am 
not yelling, I am simply doing you a favor.  
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From: ELG440@xxxxxxx
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Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Tommorow is another day, La De Da



In a message dated 5/23/05 9:11:54 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,   
HyHope@xxxxxxx writes:
It  says nothing in the definition of Select about any other day or any other  
judge. It only talks about that judge at that National. Why is that so hard   
for you to understand.

E. What it says is "of that quality".  Most of the Selects I have seen,  are of 
 
that quality, just weren't given the nod that year.  Of that Quality  does not  
mean a duplicate or interchangable.
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J. First,  you did not answer my question. There is nothing in the definition 
for Select about  a different day, or a different judge or a different show. 
These are you words that you have used and it does nothing but confuse the 
issue. It only talks about the Judge judging his or her National THAT DAY.
I think you meant to say " of the quality." The whole sentence reads this way. 
" Judges should be aware of :  
1. they should be convinced that dogs and bitches so honored are of the quality 
of the Grand Victor and Grand Victrix.  
You also wrote in your post of that quality does not mean a duplicate or 
interchangeable.
Sorry, you are wrong again. this is what they said earlier in the  definition.
>> "IN A SHOW INVOLVING THE QUALITY AND QUANITY OF DOGS REPRESENTED IN THE 
>> INTERSEX COMPETITION OF THE GSDCA NATIONAL SPECIALITY, IT IS VERY PROBABLE 
>> THAT THERE IS MORE THAN ONE DOG AND BITCH PRESENT OF THE SAME HIGH STANDARD 
>> OF TYPE, TEMPERAMENT, GAIT AND OVERALL QUALITY OF THE BOB and BOS.
So to say that quality does not mean duplicate or interchangeable is just you 
putting your spin on your argument and is just incorrect.     
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E. I don't find that had to understand.  Why is this such a major issue?  Limit 
 
the Selects if you want, all it will do is make for smaller entries.   I can't  
see how that aids the club, the members or the breed.  That is what  I do not  
understand.   

What is the purpose of the change?

Not that there is anything wrong with that.


Evan

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IT IS EASY TO SAY THAT IT WILL MAKE FOR SMALLER ENTRIES BUT WHERE IS YOU PROOF. 
LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT YEAR. JOAN GAVE 10 SELECTS LAST YEAR, THIS YEARS 
JUDGE CAN ONLY GIVE 10. IF YOU ARE CORRECT WE SHOULD HAVE A SMALLER ENTRY THIS 
YEAR. ALL I KNOW IS THAT MORE SHOWS  SINCE 1961HAD FEWER THAN 10 MALE SELECTS. 
THOSE ARE THE FACTS. PLEASE SUPPLY THE FACTS THAT YOU CONSTANTLY SAY ABOUT LESS 
SELECTS MEAN LESS ENTRY. AS ONE OLD TIMER WAS KNOWN TO SAY --- RECORDS LIVE  -- 
  OPINIONS DIE  -- IF THE ENTRIES FALL, I WOULD THINK IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE 
EXPENSE OF GETTING TO, STAYING AT AND SHOWING AT THE NATIONAL.    
One last point. If you say you feel that dog # 15 is equal to dog # 1
why is that dog not in 2nd or 3rd place. HHUUUUMMMM, I wonder what criteria the 
judge used.
JOHN

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