In a message dated 6/9/2005 11:04:07 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, uwish@xxxxxxxxxx writes: On some judges critiques, I see this come up time and again about toe dragging and locked hocks. When they say this, do they mean that the rear foot is not flexing and opening up and not following through completely? What is causing this to happen? Obviously, a structural fault? Does this seem to be a problem breeders are facing now? Never used to hear about it so much in the past, as I hear about it now. I'd like to hear a little more about this subject discussed please. Always willing to learn, I find this to be one of the biggest problems in the breed today. I believe it started about ten years ago when we noticed what we assumed were fixed tails. Then we realized the tails were not fixed, but were not active either. Then we noticed a number of hocks that did not follow through. The incidence of these two problems seemed to be in a direct proportion to DM in the dogs when they got older. It is my opinion, (backed with almost nothing) that this is all related. It seems to me we have bred into lines with a spinal problem, that has now manifested itself in these three symptoms; a dead tail in a young dog, locked hocks and dragging toes as the dog gets older, and DM in the mature animal. While most of my opinions have absolutely no merit, this one might be my first thought with some value. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================