Hi Jim Thanks for taking the time to address some of the concerns regarding the Temperament Test and the committee. When we spoke earlier this month you never explained to me that my area was full. When I told you I was willing to go thru the training, you told me you were not conducting training, but here you say people are not willing to go thru the long apprenticeship. Personally, as we move every 3-4 years, my interest remain. I never know where next year will take us. We have that kind of a job <G>. Also, Anja (from CA) has posted that she hasn't been able to get anyone to talk to her about being an evaluator. That's good info for you to have, as you posted you are looking for people in CA. What's the criteria to become an evaluator? I cant find that anywhere. What's the training? How long does it take? The answers to these questions will better educate the club members regarding this committee. I have tested my dogs, my Champions and my pets, because I believe in this program. It wasn't a matter of needing the title for an AOE. I believe in the Temperament Test. So I would like to support the program, but I cant do that if all the doors are closed. One thing I want you to address on this forum, and that is the situation where an evaluator is questioning dogs pedigrees and their breeding potential, and using that as a grading value. This policy has NO validity AND does not belong in the Temperament Test, and this member, who feels her dog was failed by this improper practice, should be vindicated by this committee. And please post a list of available evaluators, and the areas they cover. That would help a lot of clubs. I look forward to reading your response. Ileana ****************************************************************************** ***************** From: _DstnGSD1@xxxxxxx_ (mailto:DstnGSD1@xxxxxxx) To: _Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx_ (mailto:Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:43:58 EDT Listers let me rebut some of the misinformation that is being circulated on the list. We can only have temperament tests when a club agrees to host them. I am actively encouraging Evaluators to call area clubs to inquire about hosting. Evaluators are area specific so clubs should be able to obtain an evaluator with minimal cost. We have raised the price of the test to 25 dollars with 20 going to the club to help defray the cost to the club. We are striving to obtain a full compliment of evaluators. We have added two very qualified people this year I am actively seeking one more in California. Most people who have inquired have either been in areas that currently have evaluators or are no longer interested when the hear of the long apprenticeship This is hardly a closed shop or a good OLE boys group. I was going to emphasize my availability in my verbal report to the board, but as you know verbal reports were not allowed due to time constraints. My non list e-mail is in the annual report. _TotalDogman@xxxxxxxx (_mailto:TotalDogman@xxxxxxx_ (mailto:TotalDogman@xxxxxxx) ) . One a personal note I have never sought this position. Bob and the committee picked me. I strive to be ego less, and seldom post to the list. Every time I do anything with this committee I think of the breed and my responsibly to Bob. Bob was a beloved friend I still reach for the phone to call him. When someone stated "Bob Penny must be rolling over in his Grave " It cut me to The Quick. Can we please be just a little nicer out there? After thirty years in a Chicago Firehouse I thought I had thick skin. In closing Bob did tell me you take a lot of heat with this job. Bob was so smart he didn't have e-mail. Thank you Jim ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================