In a message dated 11/16/2004 4:23:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, Danannkennel@xxxxxxx writes: I think our dogs are sorely lacking also today, especially compared to five to fifteen years ago. +++++++++++++ Me thinks you hit the nail on the head Does anyone know the official age when we start to say our dogs of the past are better than the ones of today? I thought it was 40, but I am seeing younger people now taking up this mantra. Our dogs improve every year. If you fail to see this, attend our nationals. The quality continues to improve. The members of the 13 club continue to increase the choices of stud dogs are better every year. We are breeding to improve the breed and we are doing so. To say the dogs were better in the past is like remembering your 1954 Ford Fairlane and claiming it was so much better than a new Mustang. We forget that the doors popped open on curves, that the radiator leaked, that the transmission howled all the time, and that the seats wore out. But, in our memories it was perfect. We continue to improve our breed, and we have more to go. But, no one is breeding less quality dogs than the earlier lines. Evan Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For technical or administrative help, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================