Well...the truth is very few dogs "work" either, and by "work" I include police, army, SAR, seeing eye and other service dogs. Not many of us have farms where a dog "works" but a real working farm dog, naturally I'd include them too. I like performance events too but let's face it, working sheep for a few minutes at class or a few OB training sessions or even a few hours at SCH club preparing for a weekend event where you might be in the ring or on the field for what, less than five-ten minutes isn't "work". It's playing at "work". It DOES demonstrate that a dog has something between its ears <G>. I breed for a healthy litter (cookie-cutter in quality) of puppies where the LEAST of the puppies is a very good example of the breed. No, most aren't ever going to step foot in a show ring, but they should be beautiful w/ sound mind and if their family wants to compete in a venue they like, I'm their biggest cheerleader. In real life though, I know their full time "job" will be taking care of their family and you know, I enjoy hearing about a very good GSD meeting their children at a bus stop or going to an after school sporting event as much as I do a dog who won their class at one event or another. If a Pine Hill dog plays a part in the next generation and the one after that falls in love with the breed (as I did), I'm delighted! And I AM delighted; this is the time of year for Christmas cards with dogs wearing funny hats and antlers, squeezed between children who are a year older. After I get over the awwwwwww, THEN comes the thoughts "nice pigment, bone looks good" etc. <G> Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) In a message dated 12/15/2011 7:09:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: The perfect GSD based on our standard has never been produced is a statement that most will agree...new question....is our standard a standard that measures the complete idea of what our dog should be?....a herding dog,a working dog,a protection dog......most puppies bred by conformation breeders do not go on to become AKC, CKC conformation Champions...most never see the show ring...are these dogs not worthy?....the show dog is the exception, not the rule......most of us have never played professional sports, those individuals who have, for the most part are physically larger or stronger or faster than most of "US"....are we not worthy based on the human standard...and yes I agree my analogy is a bit extreme...and I am not comparing us to dogs........we created ALL PURE BRED breeds...and that is not a bad thing.......we spend so much time trying to protect our image of what we believe our dog should be and close off the beliefs and opinions of what others believe.....a nd that goes even more so for the breeders of so-called working GSDs........ALL GSDs are working dogs!....She is a working breed, and in my opinion second to none.......the 2013 World show in OUR country is the perfect opportunity to show everyone just what a wonderful dog we have....we have far more in common than we think......I hate e-mail communication.....I could have expressed this better in person.......Ed ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. 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