I have a question for Ed and the rest. Would you be more likely to travel if you were traveling to a known area? Would it make you more likely to attend a national if you were very familiar with the area? You know about the airport, you know where the hotels are etc. The reason I ask is because the age of the exhibitor is getting older . The older we get the less we like change. Terry the old fart :0) --- On Mon, 6/30/08, Edwin Hill <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Edwin Hill <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: The wolf is at the door! To: rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx, "freelist" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 11:42 AM I stand corrected...all we have to do is keep moving the National and membership will grow...how could I have been so wrong....learn something new every day......so lets have it in Oakland next year, Jasper Wyoming in 2012, then Arkansas, then Hawaii, then Las Vegas, New York City is a bast...........opps....almost got hit by a pigeon driving a bus......Ed Ruth Scheubler <rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Ed -- I can tell you that the interest in showing GSDs increased inthe buildup to the Albany National. We got new regional club members and some new parent club members. We also got some former exhibotors to come and watch and a couple of people now have show puppies. It was because of the national. We still see residual results as peple from other breeds who went to the show talk about it and cause others to be interested. By he way, it also got some new GSDs involved in other events besides conformation. It also got new exhibitors make the trip to Ft Collins. All because several years before they saw a National within reasonable driving distance. This can happen throughout the country as the show moves around. Tha fact that several of the new members became discouraged with the parent club a year or two later was not due to national location but parent club policies and actions. Ruth --- On Mon, 6/30/08, Edwin Hill <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Edwin Hill <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: The wolf is at the door! To: rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx, "freelist" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 10:39 AM Kathy we do need new members, but having the National rotated to different locations is not going to increase membership....Oregon, Florida, Denver, St Louis,Concord N.C., Columbus Ohio,Perry Georgia, Lexington...this year Beaumont, next year Ohio, year after that Utah...these are the past and near future National locations...so if location changes equaled new members, we'd have no problem with increasing membership...the National needs to be more stationary for economical reasons...the days are over for large numbers of members flying and driving all over the country......I was told that one of the best handlers in the country, Ken Tank was not at the Northern CA shows because of client expenses ( no Ken did not tell me this).....I have some ideas about how to increase membership and I have expressed many over the years right here on this list....but changing things, many times is like peeing in the ocean...the color, temperature, and depth remains the same....Ed Kathy Tank <rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: There are problems with three areas only or one area.....if we are to EVER bring in new people, or picque the interest of people for our club...we have to get the Nationals to more places. If we stick to the same three or single areas, we will have no way to expose newcomers from different parts of the country to our BIGGEST SHOW. If we rotated amongst the nine futurity regions it would mean more exposure for the club...look around folks...WE NEED NEW MEMBERS DESPERATELY. Kathy Tank 2008/6/30 Liane Fossland : > Which brings us right back to a conversation we had some time ago. It was > suggested at that time that we should have a central area for all of our > Nationals. There was also mention of a possible GSDCA owned arena. Wouldn't > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 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