In a message dated 2/3/2005 8:42:36 AM Pacific Standard Time, campaigners@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Others insist on taking the lead from the handler. As by AKC rules the handler is NEVER supposed to lose control of the dog, that is in clear conflict . Once the lead leaves the handler's hands, he cannot control the animal. A judge should NEVER , EVER think its okay to take a lead from a handler. Not kosher, bad testing at the very least. Kathy ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================