Oak, You post is absolutely dead on. Excellent post. One of my favorites quotes of all time (thanks Abe). Ileana In a message dated 1/30/2007 11:58:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, osmith@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes: "You have to stand for something, or you'll fall for anything". The shame here is to all who try to do the right thing by our dogs, who sign our Breeder's Code of Ethics, who are the ultimate victims of dealers from puppy mills. We sell all of our pet dogs with limited registrations and strongly urge or require spay/neutering. All shelters that I am aware of will not sell a dog that isn't spayed or neutered. So where are all the dogs coming from that are causing municipality after municipality to enact breeder restrictions and limitations? There are not enough of us small breeders at 1 or 2 litters a year to cause 10's of thousands of unwanted dogs. They are coming from the dogs purchased through supersized pet stores, supplied by puppy mills, registered by the AKC. Generations of these dogs, millions of these dogs. These draconian laws will not put an end to the dealers in wholesale puppies but they will, by shear economic weight, put an end to the small breeder who cares, who tries, who signs his or hers' breed clubs equivalent of the "Breeders Code of Ethics". It's not just AR groups, it's the very real problem of too many unwanted pets, disposable lives. Dealers in wholesale puppies are as much a threat to all caring breeders as is any AR group. Just as much of a threat. "You have to stand for something or you'll fall for anything" To the eight who stood, thank you for trying. Please continue to stand, now more than ever before. What does the GSDCA stand for? What did it fall for? Oak Smith Oak Ridge German Shepherds Dedicated to the German Shepherd Dog ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================