Well, I guess I have to disagree with Syd and Kris. Not entirely, but I do have to disagree. I don't think a club has to be elitist...but when there are NO requirements, we end up with the biggest puppymiller in the country, perhaps the world, in our midst...and that should be offensive to every single one of us. The Parent Club has a puppymiller in it! I think it's disgusting. I'm not addressing the people who have a dozen litters a year...if they are willing to do that work, and if they aren't doing it to make money, but to get something for themselves to show, then whether we treat them decently or like scum is our problem. Every breed has those people...in the elitist clubs too. But nobody else has the biggest puppymiller in the world. I guess we can call ourselves an elite club for that fact, now. What's wrong with meeting some requirements, anyway? Not the extreme ones, but some? We have NONE now. Maybe that's why we would have to let in ALL the puppymill owners...because we have no criteria at all. At least that's some people's excuse for letting Hunte in...which means they couldn't keep anybody else out. If there are no personal beliefs that puppymillers are wrong, then fine, go ahead and welcome this man....and sell him the stuff you don't want from your next litter, too, so he can ship them wherever he thinks some pet shop can sell them. There has to be a line drawn somewhere...it's just really obvious that an awful lot of people have no clue where to draw it. Peggy > > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================