I agree with you Helen........but I also think the dog was doing exactly what it was TRAINED to do. This kind of thing goes on every day with these dogs. It is what they do. This was just a scarey Nationally televised event. Dogs with Search & Rescue and Police Departments are trained to do exactly what this dog did.......it is just a great "live find" .....BUT, the result of extensive training and the trainers and Search & Rescue people all were doing what they were trained to do. Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx www.marhaven.com ----- Original Message ----- From: VPREZHMF@xxxxxxx To: Leweb@xxxxxxx ; PAGAIRS@xxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 6:35 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] The problem with Hero Gandalf Just to answer the question of GANDALF--- ABC reported the dog was a Shiloh Shepherd. Our Hero Dog awards rule that they must be a purebred GSD, Yes the dog is a HERO,but are we going start awarding mixed breeds and other breeds when they perform heroic acts?? And many other breeds and mongrels HAVE performed acts of Heroism . Until they announced it,I also presumed it was a coated black GSD. I wrote this yesterday and was answered today------------- In a message dated 3/20/2007 9:16:28 PM Central Standard Time, VPREZHMF writes: If you can verify he's purebred GSD,I could care less how he looks ,but he can not be a mixed breed or a Shiloh.. Certainly this dog is a Hero but when you think of the past GSD Service--working S& R in the 9/11 disaster, the Service S&R bitch from Florida that worked the recovery of body parts on the Columbia and had done over 1000 S& R around the world in earthquakes,cyclones,tornados. And last yrs was the service dog that worked with his partner in Afghanistan. I only have one Service dog nomination so far,Saved the life of his owner,so if you can verify the dog as purebred,I'll be happy to take the nomination-- Helen Marcato GSD answered today---------------- I verified that he is in fact, a Shiloh Shepherd (Even though the Listers want it to be otherwise)....there are people on the forum I was talking about that have litter siblings to him. A hero is a hero, even if he can't be honored at the national I will talk to Lew and see if he can send a "Certificate of Appreciation",or "Recognition of Heroism" to the Gandalf and his owner from the GSDCA. Helen Miller Fisher ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================