This was a standard that use to include white as an acceptable color. That standard was the original and created by this breed's founder. Donna Beadle eclipsekennels.com On Aug 3, 2013, at 7:44 PM, "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I think it is a waste to keep going back to this issue as if > ONE SIDE of the "color discussion" cares more about Temperament > and Health and Working / Herding qualities than the other!! > ANY BREEDER should care about the entire animal....dogs, cats, > horses, cattle. It should be a NON issue in this. > We ARE talking about a BREED STANDARD which is what makes a > specific Breed very apparent by its specific appearance and > behavior. > The Breed Standard IS the "end all be all"..... > > Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > www.marhaven.com > > > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: The other white decision > > Again missing the point. What about the health of our breed or temperament. > Aren't those important as well? You can't determine health in a show ring. > if a judge can determine EPI, DM or any of the other diseases that afflict > our breed, just by looking at them in a show ring, I'd love to meet them. > And I've definitely seen a fair share of dogs that didn't have the > appropriate temperament put up in a show ring. > I love conformation but it shouldn't be the end all be all. If it is, we > lose sight of the breed as a whole. To separate a breed just to show in the > conformation ring will never make sense to me. > > Donna Beadle > eclipsekennels.com > > On Aug 3, 2013, at 5:43 PM, Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx wrote: > >> Well, no matter if a person likes it or not, the conformation ring, in any > breed, is the proving ground for that breed's breed standard. >> >> Now, I like to dual title my dogs and play in performance venues as well, > after all, hopefully they have another 8-10 years after they finish to play, > and for me it IS play, sorry, I don't have a working sheep farm and I really > don't want one...but IF a person aspires to breed dogs to a breed standard, > the proof of it all starts w/ the beauty contest part of it....or else I'd > just go to the rescues and find a dog to work in obedience or herding. >> >> Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC >> Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions >> visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/ >> >> In a message dated 8/3/2013 5:35:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > pharaohsrevenge@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: >> why are decisions always made in terms of the show ring? > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original > author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any > kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of > the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and > its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions > expressed in any post. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY > MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS > PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY > FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE > PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org > SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html > NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ > ============================================================================ > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================