[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: The old days of breeding.
- From: Joyce Willis <myjoygs@xxxxxxx>
- To: marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 17:53:08 -0400
I thought baytril is not good to give to pregnant bitches
Carolyn Martello <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>That was one of my points about the original post...with stud
>owners handling their own shipping...you can afford more than
>ONE shipment for more than one breeding to get the timing right.
>IF the timing is right..the semen is good and the bitch is
>fertile you will have puppies. With todays science and shipping
>semen...the biggest problem is getting the timing "PERFECT" for
>each bitch because there is no stud to handle that part.....<G>
>
>Let's face it ......dogs roaming the streets are bred many many
>times. They can't HELP but get pregnant!! <G>
>
>Because of the expense involved...we try to get the timing
>perfect with progesterone testing. Studs don't require any of
>the normal VC or myco plasma tests that way...and that could be
>causing some of the 'misses' as most bitches are not tested for
>an A.I. TCI....or surgical implant.
>NOW Dr. 'Hutch' recommends 10 days of Baytril AFTER an implant
>or TCI...and that will take care of most infections if you follow
>that protocol.
>Personally I don't think all the knowledge and methods are the
>problem....but the COSTS sure are!
>
>Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>www.marhaven.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>On Behalf Of blackhawkfarms214 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 1:01 PM
>Subject: The old days of breeding.
>
>I had a couple of questions about breeding as it relates today.
>Do you think, we as breeders are "too involved" in the process? Or could it
>possibly be because we were not really involved in the earlier days with a
>lot of pre breeding testing that has caused missed pregnancies and smaller
>litters?
>I am from the school of the bitch came into season. You went to the vet and
>did a VC/BC and waited for the results. We drove or shipped the bitch to
>the stud dog owners place and was bred day 10-12 and maybe days 14.. 9
>weeks later you had a litter of 10 and most, if not all were spoken for by
>8 weeks of age.
>
>We all have seen that mix breed, unspayed female roaming loose in our
>neighborhoods, she eats what she can, shes usually wormy, unthrfty yet,
>each season, she usually free whelps 9-10 puppies under someones house and
>they all live. She hasnt had any vet care, no progesterone, no BC or VC.no
>mycoplasma counts, etc. Yet, she conceives (and whelps) easily.
>
>While I understand the necessity to check to make sure your bitch is
>disease free as possible. Is it possible we are now "too involved" with the
>blood draws, swabbings, etc which may be the reason why I have seem to hear
>about smaller litter numbers and missed conceptions Maybe its something
>that I havent considered.. diet?Environment?. What are your thoughts?
>
>Mike
>
>
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