What Sherry said about handlers showing their own dogs or breeding against yours that you are paying them to handle is so true. a lot of the handlers do it and it is not right. You pay handlers what fifty to one hundred dollars to handle your dog at one show and then they are showing their own breeding against you. I don't think so. A handler who shall remain nameless did that to me. I hired her to show my open dog in three shows. The class goes in the ring and her partner also has an open dog.....their own breeding. my dog went second to that dog all three days. Guess what......she is still waiting to be paid for those shows and it is not going to happen. and you wonder why the entries are so small. The same thing with the Amateur futurity. It is a joke. you may have unknown people in the ring but they are still showing dogs for some of the top breeders in the country and are winning. It should be for people who want to have fun with their dogs not the people who win a ll the time. And if these people want to have their dogs shown they should take them in the ring themselves. When we voted a couple of months ago about whether or not we wanted to have an ameteur Futurity i was like no way. it is not worth the extra time and trouble that it takes to have one. JMO. Amy Greenhut Justrock German Shepherds Gen Oak Leopard Tortoises, Tortoise Rescue , Behold the turtle: He makes progress only when he sticks his neck out. A quote by James B. Conant ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================