[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: The club problems, as I see it

From: carolyn mckenna <carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Sandra Kozub <skozub@xxxxxxxxxxx>, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 07:09:01 -0800 (PST)
     Sandy,  I was literally defending by stressing the problem of
  fault judging.  Fault judging can only bring the mediocre to the
  front.  Remember, I acknowledged his WD as gorgeous,( reserve
  was also very nice). If one fault judges in the classes, he may 
  not have much quality going into winners.  Also, this was a huge
  entry held in conjuction with a specialty.  There were some mighty
  fine dogs there.                         Carolyn    
Sandra Kozub <skozub@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:  

I would be so ashamed of this post.   You publically insulted a judge
and every dog owner whose dog did win.   If you don't like a judges
judging, then don't enter under them again.   This public insulting only
indicates very bad sportsmanship (IMO).

Sandy


At 07:43 PM 1/11/2006 -0800, you wrote:
>  Ileana , my reply is addressed not only to your current post,  but also 
> one of
>   yours from earlier in the week.  I, too, am distressed that the Dallas club
>   is closing down,  Your reasons are valid, and most of the problem seems
>   to be infighting and jealousy. Certainly this has been a huge factor in 
> this
>    club for thepast fifty years, and you nearly brought them out of it.
>        Too bad more areas cannot have the commaderie that other Texas
>   clubs have. We are, for the most part, a close knit group here in South 
> Central
>   Texas, close friends of many years, good and respected breeders who 
> are  not jealous of each other and admire each others'  dogs and 
> are  happy for the
>   well deserved wins of each others' dogs.  We also have a great deal of fun
>   and laugh a lot.
>         Glen Rose was no exception. We had fun,  and there were some 
> really good dogs, some of which were  recognized,  However, Ileana was 
> correct in her post
>   as to the worst judjing ever. I am not sure that I have not seen worse, 
> but not
>   by a judge who supposedly knows our breed.
>       I am not defending the judge, but I do believe that I can explain 
> where he
>   went wrong. --------FAULT JUDGING.    He seemed to be hung up on lifting
>   and said as much to some .  However, it was a very small ring, and the 
> very
>   good dogs had to be held back to even make the corners. He did not seem to
>   try to determine the reason for the lifting,  eg. asking them to go 
> separately,
>   slowly, loose lead. etc.  Even if they were lifting in his eyes, should 
> a judge
>   consider dogs based on a fault, even though it is one he cannot abide?
>   Consequently, with the exception of his winners dog who competes in both
>   rings and finished that day, he ended up  with several mediocre dogs in his
>   winners class.
>          Bitches were a whole new ball game. ......some gorgeous bitches,
>   including one who was BOB from the specialty the night before. I think
>   she was dead last in her class under this judge.   Welllllllll, the winners
>   bitch class was an absolute abortion, a bunch of pets who had no glaring
>   faults.  Isn't that wonderful ?
>        Really embarrassing was the BOB class. He had found a really good WD
>   (surprise) so when the class came in for BOB, here were all the really nice
>   champions, the gorgeous WD, and ooops !  Where did this WB come from,
>   didn't look like anything else in the ring.
>         My point ?  We have to do something to keep people enthusiastic
>   about the sport.  We have to do something to spur on the people who
>   drop out of conformation and go to the performance ring.  (By the way,
>   many of those good ones at Glen Rose got their HIC  and we had some
>   more celebratory  fun.)  But most of all, we have to do something about
>   what is driving people away.  Creepy dogs are finishing, enhanced dogs
>   are finishing,dogs with such pushed forward fronts are finishing.  We claim
>   to be for the betterment of the breed, but I wonder if most are just 
> for the win
>   no matter what the cost to the breed.  Sigh
>              Carolyn
>   the very good WD and a WB that

Sandra Kozub
KcK Kennels
http://iweb.tntech.edu/rkozub/kennel.htm





                        
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