In a message dated 8/26/2006 8:21:56 A.M. Central Standard Time, Karmasreva@xxxxxxx writes: They branched off from us years ago, they have truly become a different breed. Conformationally, they don't look like us, they have different genetic problems than us, they work differently from our dogs. They are no longer Gernan Shepherds The AKC does not see it that way. Like blues and bronze,the white are GSD but not desirable for breeding to our Standard-- The Dobes and Boxer people are in the same boat re the white color. They are still Boxers and Dobes,but not accepted because of their breed Standard--- Helen Miller Fisher ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================