Amen to that. You have not lived until you have watched a testy sheep :0) Hoof stomping shit kick'en sheep. Terry From: Ruth Scheubler <rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx> To: DaList <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 7:31 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: The White German Shepherd Besides all of the other issues with this comment, do you have any idea what a flock of sheep will do with a timid, weak nerved dog? You might be able to walk that dog through a test level with velcro sheep and a good trainer - but that is testing and not herding. Try it at the trial level and with trial sheep. Either the sheep will leave or, if experienced c course sheep, they can run the dog off the field. We watched a SchH3 dog get chased. The experienced ewes are better and quicker temperament testers than the two legged evaluators. Ruth ________________________________ From: Ken Tank <tanksr@xxxxxxxxx> To: showgsd gsd <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 6:01 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] The White German Shepherd Fred Migliore posted this on another list. I think he really puts it in perspective. Ken >As a board member I voted in favor of the white GSD being eligible to win our highest awards. Since I have heard from a few people[often] that it is up to the board to protect the integrity of the conformation standard when handing out performance awards. Now though I don't agree with that I can understand where these people are coming from. Lets take a hard look at it. Can a dog born with one testicle win that award? Can a dog with 3 or more missing teeth a dog with a wry bite a dog that is undershot or overshot win? Can a dog who will herd sheep but will not pass a temperament test win? I could go on but I am sure you can see where I am heading. So now we are faced with some choices 1 we can have all dogs checked by a Vet and a Conformation judge before giving a performance award 2 Make it easier only award performance top honors to conformation champions. 3 allow any purebred GSD registered with the AKC to be eligible. Personaly I am in favor of #3 which is where we are right now. Respecfully Fred Migliore<< ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. 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