There is hope. Talks have begun, between the WGSD clubs and the AWSA club. So, maybe we can all come to a resolution or at least a way to co-exist. Time will tell but it is a start. This is all I will say on this subject. We are taking the advice of several GSDCA Board members, and some GSDCA members. We are trying to work together now. Barb Hively - PA DNA. It's what makes a white, a German Shepherd