That is what we should ask for, honesty. We may or may not agree, but with every opinion we have a choice to agree or not. The German style of do does not appeal to me. Nor do the nudes of Ruben. It is taste. I prefer a long striding dog, with a long neck and a great front. The German style wants a darker pigmented dog, with short necks, less fronts and more uniformity. That does not make it wrong, it just makes it something I don't find pleasing. There is room in this breed for all types. Also that goes for the dogs. And, I don't agree that they seem to love their dogs more than we do. Kierk has been vacationing here at home, and goes back in a few days. It would be hard to find a dog someone loves more than we do him, or he us. Evan In a message dated 5/17/2014 9:49:35 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: I will not stay silent or sugar coat my feeling. I used no names only my honest observations. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION: http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================