I have just had a long conversation with Bob Penny about temperament testing. I have learned several things from him about this, and thought the list would like to know the particulars. The Parent Club temperament test is used ONLY at the National, and at all the Futurities and Maturities. The judges sign a contract to do the loose-lead temperament test at these shows. The dog is walked to a certain spot in the ring and stopped on a loose lead. The judge approaches the dog from six to ten feet away in a friendly manner, and observes the way the dog accepts his approach and a light touch. Pretty simple. The AKC approved this test, and adopted it for their use at all-breed shows. However the way to do the test has not been made clear to all-breed judges, in most cases. The Parent Club has NOTHING to do with the tests at the all-breed shows. The film that some of the judges get is not clear, and so we have a problem with tests not being done correctly. The AKC is behind the tests, not the GSDCA. We do not tell the AKC what to do, they tell us what to do. The test that is done at our National and at our Futurity/Maturity shows should be kept as is. This is an important facet of judging our dogs at our GSDCA sponsored events. No dog of correct temperament will have a problem passing this brief part of the conformation judging. Those of you who know Bob Penny know what a dedicated Shepherd man he is, and has always been. He is a 50 year Parent Club member, has been a judge and a trainer for a long, long time. He wants only the best for our dogs. Doris Estabrook ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================